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by Christine Tham
Tue 01.20.2009 5:56 pm
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

By the way, I was at the JF library the other day, and found a few textbooks that would appear to support my assertion that こと (usually) "only applies to the immediately preceeding clause." Complete Master Series: JLPT Level 3 Grammar Exercises (3A Network) ISBN4-88319-354-3 page 186: ~の/こと: used to...
by Christine Tham
Sat 01.17.2009 12:43 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: Is there a site that can give you example sentences?
Replies: 10
Views: 4160

Re: Is there a site that can give you example sentences?

It's good to work with dialogues when you can anyway, because there are some features of Japanese grammar that are hard to get a handle on just from isolated sentences without surrounding context. I agree. I find that I can remember dialogues better than isolated sentences. The Bunka Institute of L...
by Christine Tham
Sat 01.17.2009 12:21 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: Is there a site that can give you example sentences?
Replies: 10
Views: 4160

Re: Is there a site that can give you example sentences?

You may already know this, but mlcjapanese.co.jp has a good set of dialogues, plus PDF transcriptions of the dialogues.

They are not isolated sentences, but the dialogues are very short.
by Christine Tham
Fri 01.16.2009 9:04 pm
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

I think it is important to remember though that in cases like these, which are rather ambiguous, there might not necessarily be only one correct way of interpretation, especially if even among native speakers discord exists about it. I don't think the opinion of one native speaker can or should be ...
by Christine Tham
Fri 01.16.2009 6:57 pm
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: Heisig, RTK Experiment
Replies: 121
Views: 44562

Re: Heisig, RTK Experiment

How many Kanji do I know? Zero You can't seriously mean that. You must know one or two kanji at the very least. That's not zero. It is a pretty small drop in the bucket though. Actually, I understand what Dustin means by that. When people ask me how many kanji I know, I'm very tempted to say "zero....
by Christine Tham
Fri 01.16.2009 6:38 pm
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

I said earlier I will no longer contribute to the debate, so this post is not an attempt to do that. However, one thing I have learnt from this discussion is that it is possible for even native speakers to have "alternative" interpretations of how to apply こと. In order for more students to benefit, ...
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 4:42 pm
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

But that makes your presence here somewhat contradicting, doesn't it? You don't want to ask questions because of the unqualified and conflicting opinions you say you'll get... yet your own opinions are unqualified as well, so you should know (by your own logic) of how little help your answers will ...
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 4:20 pm
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

Christine, unless you're prepared to argue with the person who has been kind enough to tutor the JLPT study groups for the past few years, perhaps you should review your JLPT3 grammar, or, at least, your understanding of how こと works on compound sentences. Actually, I did. I consulted a professiona...
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 1:47 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

I think the point we're getting tripped up on is, if a modern name is written in what was historically 万葉仮名, it's hard to argue that such a particular name would be equivalent to writing it in runic letters, and I don't think anybody's arguing that it is. But 万葉仮名 as a complete writing system is a ...
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 1:22 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

Unlike you, I sought out opinions from native speakers as to whose understanding was more correct, rather than relying on my opinion of what my teacher's opinion would be; unlike you, Chris made an account on lang-8 to argue his case in that thread; you could have done the same, if you wished to ar...
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 12:53 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

My basic point was that actually studying or learning 万葉仮名 is useless for anything but reading the 万葉集 or other old works, and even then, they have editions of those works that are written in standard kanji and kana. Even though traces of 万葉仮名 still show up in certain names, you don't actually have...
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 12:36 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

if someone says that Beowulf is Old English, they aren't saying it's written in runes, which seems to be her conclusion. Again, see Yudan's reply. Your analogy is not apt, because my position is "I don't think the writing system that iroha is written in can be considered "archaic", because archaic ...
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 12:28 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

ココさん、「印刷して世に出すこと」を読むと、その「こと」は「世に出す」だけか、「印刷すること」も含む可能性もあると思いますか。 Christine, are you seriously trying to argue that the language in which the Iroha poem is written is not 古語? See Yudan's reply. Either that, or Yudan was claiming that 万葉仮名 was no longer used in modern Japanese. Well, not in normal wri...
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 12:14 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

Yudan Taiteki wrote:No, I think she's trying to argue that technically I claimed the kanji themselves were 古語 and were not used in the modern language.
Thanks.
by Christine Tham
Thu 01.15.2009 12:09 am
Forum: Learning Materials Reviews & Language Learning tips
Topic: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?
Replies: 147
Views: 36337

Re: What have you gained by using Heisig RTK1?

Knock it off. Christine, you're far too thin-skinned and unwilling to admit that you might be wrong, and far too ready to find fault with others with absolute statements of error. I say this not because I was one of the ones accused of not being up to JLPT 3 level (a condition I shall never test, a...