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~ている
I am a bit confused on how Genki is explaining this.
(a) an action in progress, or
(b) a past event that is connected with the present
Which is fine if that was all it said. Basically what it says after is that there are 3 types of verbs:
1) verbs that describe continuous states
2) verbs that describe activities that last for some time
3) verbs that describe changes that are more or less instantaneous.
Says that:
- Only verbs I learned that are part of group1 are いる and ある and they are never used with ている so no point in talking about it now.
- Group 2 verbs use ている in the sense of action in progress. (読んでいます・読んでいました(is reading/was reading)
- Group 3 verbs are used in past event that is connected with the present. (結婚しています(is married))
I have a hard time imagining past tense group3 if my interpretation of Genki is correct. Is it possible? Considering it's suppose to be connecting to the present?
(a) an action in progress, or
(b) a past event that is connected with the present
Which is fine if that was all it said. Basically what it says after is that there are 3 types of verbs:
1) verbs that describe continuous states
2) verbs that describe activities that last for some time
3) verbs that describe changes that are more or less instantaneous.
Says that:
- Only verbs I learned that are part of group1 are いる and ある and they are never used with ている so no point in talking about it now.
- Group 2 verbs use ている in the sense of action in progress. (読んでいます・読んでいました(is reading/was reading)
- Group 3 verbs are used in past event that is connected with the present. (結婚しています(is married))
I have a hard time imagining past tense group3 if my interpretation of Genki is correct. Is it possible? Considering it's suppose to be connecting to the present?
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Astral Abraxas - Posts: 81
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Re: ~ている
It doesn't say it's in past tense. It said it's something that -happened- in the past.
Someone learning the ~teiru form might come to the logical conclusion (by english standards) that 結婚している actually means "Is getting married (right now)". However, if I tell you, "結婚している", I am not in the middle of my wedding as we speak, but that I am married already.
Genki's explanation that it's a past event illustrates that "They became married, and so they still are".
Someone learning the ~teiru form might come to the logical conclusion (by english standards) that 結婚している actually means "Is getting married (right now)". However, if I tell you, "結婚している", I am not in the middle of my wedding as we speak, but that I am married already.
Genki's explanation that it's a past event illustrates that "They became married, and so they still are".
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Yudan Taiteki - Posts: 5609
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Re: ~ている
When you would say things like
本を読みました
over
本を読んでいました。
etc then? Is it just a preference thing?
本を読みました
over
本を読んでいました。
etc then? Is it just a preference thing?
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Astral Abraxas - Posts: 81
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Re: ~ている
Astral Abraxas wrote:When you would say things like
本を読みました
over
本を読んでいました。
etc then? Is it just a preference thing?
No.
The first sentence means "I read the book." The second sentence means "I was reading the book" (or possibly "[At that time], I had read the book")
i.e.
"When Tanaka-san called me, I was reading a book."
*田中さんが電話した時、私は本を読みました。
田中さんが電話した時、私は本を読でいました。
"I read this book last year."
この本は去年読みました。
*この本は去年読んでいました。
"I had [already] read the book, so I didn't join the club."
あの本は[もう]読んでいたから、サークルには入らなかった。
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Yudan Taiteki - Posts: 5609
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Re: ~ている
Mür wrote:That book looks really difficult. I think I know... nearly all of -teiru... But that classification makes grammar worse! OMG!
I don't see how those classifactions makes it worse?
失敗は成功の元
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