hommie93710 wrote: no your right i should learn hiragana first. I guess in the long run it makes more sence since you'll have to learn it anyways but ok what do you learn that KA,KI,KU,KE,KO or the japanese signs that go with them or both at the same time and do you remember KA..,SA..,TA..,NA..,HA..,MA..,YA..,RA..,WA..,O,N, and the other ones like G,Z,D,B,P did this confuse you? I jsut dont know where to start?
for the most part, once you have a, i, u, e, o worked out phonetically, the rest of the line falls in place, sounding the same except for the "consonant" at the beginning.
This should take very little time to remember, and I recommend listening to audio for this.
There are a few exceptions with the consonant, but not many.
After that, for all the kana symbols, I found it was easiest to go in the order of a horizontal hiragana chart.
a i u e o
ka ki ku ke ko
sa shi su se so
ta chi tsu te to
na ni nu ne no
ha hi fu he ho
ma mi mu me mo
ya yu yo
ra ri ru re ro
I romanized it to make it easier for you
When I decided to take on the Hiragana, I made flashcards of all of the above, and kept them in order at first.
I would do one row at a time, it's a lot easier to remember 5, than 46
After I had the a row down, I did the ka row, and then did all 10 that I have already learnt to make sure I don't forget any of them.
Of course, next was the sa row, review all 15, ta row, review all 20 and so on.
Some people get super fast results this way, (some people can get it down in mere hours on a weekend then review nightly for a week or so) some people of course will take a bit longer, classes typicall spend about a month going, "a, i, u, e, o" but I feel it is the best way to go, little bite size chunks at a time. You will determine how quickly you learn based on your abilities, and time spent on the material, but don't get down if it seems to be taking longer than you thought.
As far as the ga, ba, pa sounds, they are easier to remember than the original hiragana.
は ば ぱ ha, ba, pa, as long as you can remember how to modify the sounds based on how they start, you'll be fine once you have the main series down.
Of course most kana materials will have this information included with it, but don't worry about it until you have the above sounds down, then it will be much easier to work on all the modified kana.
It gets more fun when you add kanji such as り and ゆ for りゅ as one sound.
Of course once you have hiragana, there is katakana, which has the exact same sounds, but a different set of kana, and a few rules for slightly more flexible input of foreign words.