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Grammar point example sentences

Postby Steve_Poppers » Thu 04.19.2007 11:00 pm

I'm practicing by writing my own example sentences of the grammar points on this site. I'll post a section, wait for criticism, then post the next. Just help me out when I get something wrong.

To want がほしい
Write 5 practice sentences.
暑いみそ汁がほしいです。
赤いりんごがほしいです。
新しい猫がほしいです。
あの署「紀の絵がほしいです。
何金がほしいですか。
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby paul_b » Fri 04.20.2007 1:28 am

Steve_Poppers wrote:
To want がほしい
Write 5 practice sentences.
暑いみそ汁がほしいです。


Should be 熱い
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Fri 04.20.2007 10:12 am

First off, it may have already said this where you were looking, but do not use ほしい to ask someone for something, only to make an abstract statement about your wants.

I don't quite know what your fourth sentence is supposed to say. "I want that tenth century"?

The final sentence, assuming it's supposed to mean "How much money do you want", would be something like お金はいくらほしいですか。 but that question sounds kind of odd.
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Steve_Poppers » Fri 04.20.2007 5:02 pm

Should be 熱い

暑い、熱い...What's the difference?

First off, it may have already said this where you were looking, but do not use ほしい to ask someone for something, only to make an abstract statement about your wants.

http://thejapanesepage.com/readarticle.php?article_id=159#q4 I got it from Clay! Did I miss something?

I messed up the fourth sentence. It's fixed now. (or should be)

What's odd about the final sentence?
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Fri 04.20.2007 5:12 pm

Steve_Poppers wrote:
Should be 熱い

暑い、熱い...What's the difference?


暑い is used for air temperature, and 熱い for hot things.

First off, it may have already said this where you were looking, but do not use ほしい to ask someone for something, only to make an abstract statement about your wants.

http://thejapanesepage.com/readarticle.php?article_id=159#q4 I got it from Clay! Did I miss something?


No, as long as you understood that then you're fine. I was just pointing it out in case you overlooked or misinterpreted it.

I messed up the fourth sentence. It's fixed now. (or should be)


Yes, it's fine now.

What's odd about the final sentence?


It's not odd, it's grammatically incorrect.

何金おがほしいですか。

First off, you can't just put "nani" and "kane" right together like that; it's not a word. I'm still not sure if you are intending this to mean "how much money" or "what kind of money".

I'm also not sure what that お is supposed to be (if it's just a typo, then never mind).
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Steve_Poppers » Fri 04.20.2007 5:17 pm

Ok, I understand the problems. That was supposed to mean "how much money?" What would be correct, then?

And yes, that was a typo. I'm still getting used to the IME.
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby richvh » Fri 04.20.2007 5:54 pm

いくら is "how much (money)"
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Steve_Poppers » Fri 04.20.2007 6:07 pm

Yes, I understand that, but Yudan said,
...something like お金はいくらほしいですか。 but that question sounds kind of odd.
It seems fine from what I know.
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby flammable hippo » Fri 04.20.2007 6:23 pm

There is a big difference between what is grammatical and what is natural. For example, the following is grammatically correct Japanese (I hope :D):

のぶこちゃん、君は寝る前に君の部屋をかたづけて、君の歯を磨いてほしい。

This sounds pretty unnatural because of the blatant overuse of the word 'you'. A more natural way to say it would be のぶこちゃん、寝る前に、部屋をかたづけて、歯を磨いてほしい。 

The sentence means "Nobuko, Before you go to bed I want you to tidy up your room and brush your teeth. "
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Two muffins were baking in an oven. One turns to the other and says "sure is hot in here." The other replies "AH TALKING MUFFIN!"

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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Fri 04.20.2007 6:24 pm

I just can't imagine saying that sentence. It's not an idiomatic Japanese sentence if you're trying to use it with the meaning of "How much money do you want for something that I'm going to buy from you?" In that case I would prefer 何円 or 何ドル (if you are in the US saying that). Even then, 何円がほしいですか just doesn't sound like a natural way to ask that -- I can't explain why, and my non-native-speaker-sense may not be accurate here, but that's my feeling.

(You may be wondering why 何円 is OK but 何金 is not. The reason is that 円 is a counter, that is, you can say 一円, 二円, 三円, and so on. You cannot say 一金, ニ金 -- it's not countable. This is sort of like how in English you can say "How many boxes?" and "How many stalks of wheat?" but not "How many wheats?")
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Steve_Poppers » Fri 04.20.2007 6:31 pm

So, 何金 would be like saying, "How many money?" I see.

How would you say it?

Also, if I was just lending or giving money to a friend, would it be any different? That was my original thought.

Am I asking too many questions?
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Fri 04.20.2007 6:44 pm

No, don't worry about that.

I think that if you want to say this, asking for the currency itself is better than the general word "money". So 何ドル for "How many dollars" or 何円 for "How many yen".
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby richvh » Fri 04.20.2007 6:45 pm

これはいくらですか - how much is this?
お金をいくら借りたいですか - how much money do you want to borrow?

I think 何円 or 何ドル is a bit unnatural unless you're talking about currency conversions.
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby Steve_Poppers » Fri 04.20.2007 6:56 pm

Ok, I see. Thank you. I believe that takes care of all my sentences for that section.

これはいくらですか - how much is this?

Ah! I knew that! I can't believe I forgot.

Well, to avoid a double-post, I'll just put up the next section.
Want to do たい
日本に住みたい。
私と結婚したいですか。
何を言ったいですか。
分かりたい。
忘れたい。

I'm not too sure that the questions are right, but you don't have to jump right on these.
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RE: Grammar point example sentences

Postby richvh » Fri 04.20.2007 7:21 pm

Adding か to plain form is generally a bad idea. Add a です or a の before the か and I think the questions are OK.
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