American Manga... does it exist??

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American Manga... does it exist??

Post by Pianogirl123 » Tue 01.29.2008 10:36 pm

Or, exactly how far has the manga publishing gone outside of japan? i know there is korean manga, even though it is called something else... is there no hope but to be labeled as 'fake manga' ?

And then, I have huge internal conflict between my love for the japanese language and manga art style, and the fact that my story actually takes place in America when there were pretty much no asian people living in it at all. doushiyou?? >.<

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Post by Near » Tue 01.29.2008 10:53 pm

Comic books, even though they're not exactly similar to manga. I'm pretty sure they're the closest thing to manga we produce, aside from the translated versions of other countries manga. I don't think I've run across an "American manga" yet.
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Post by chikara » Wed 01.30.2008 12:08 am

Is "American manga" an oxymoron?
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Post by Kisshu » Wed 01.30.2008 12:11 am

Unfortunately, yes.... kinda.

Try looking at
Amazing Agent Luna
My Cat Loki
Peach Fuzz

etc etc etc. I'm pretty sure there are a lot more by the artist that makes Peach Fuzz. Bleh. My eyes bleed. >_>

And yes, it's basically "fake" manga.

You can find manga alllmoost anywhere. I have a couple Chinese and Korean ones, too.

Edit: Please note, that I am NOT an otaku. Unfoorrtunaattelly, I did go through that faze a few years back -shudder- I'm quite ashamed that I actually know this stuff. Manga is basically only a learning tool for me, although I don't mind drawing every once in a while.
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Post by SirFirestorm » Wed 01.30.2008 12:27 am

No one has heard of megatokyo?

Their books are making their debut in Japan soon.

I don't know what else to tell you about korean manwha except that tokyopop has licensed many of their series and brought it to the US. The art style is not much different than japanese manga, but it is korean if you care about that subtle difference.
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Post by Harisenbon » Wed 01.30.2008 12:36 am

I always liked Gold Digger and Ninja Highschool growing up.
There was also a dirty-pair american adaption by Adam Warren.

Not being back in the states for so long, I don't know what's still out there in the ameria-manga scene, but those were some good ones.
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Post by saraLynne » Wed 01.30.2008 12:41 am

I don't think of anything that's Anime/Manga style as fake manga just because it doesn't come from Japan. I suppose purists won't feel it's authentic and snub any american made mangas out of pure spite, but that's pretty shallow, IMHO.

I haven't been in the comic book scene for a long time, I kinda miss it. :/
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Post by Yudan Taiteki » Wed 01.30.2008 12:55 am

Well, the whole idea that there's this term "manga" that applies solely to comics produced in Japan is essentially an invention of Western fans of manga (same with "anime").
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Post by chikara » Wed 01.30.2008 1:14 am

So the Japanese would refer to say Captain Marvel comics as manga?
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Post by Harisenbon » Wed 01.30.2008 4:49 am

chikara wrote:
So the Japanese would refer to say Captain Marvel comics as manga?
Depends who you're talking to. アメリカン マンガ would work, as well as アメリカンコミックス. I seem to remember アメコミ also being used in the Geekfandom circle.

In my own mind I consider ANime/Manga to be any comic or movie drawn with obvious Japanese influences in mind. Of course, at this point in time it's almost impossible to find comics that AREN'T influenced by Japanese Manga...
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Post by Shirasagi » Wed 01.30.2008 5:54 am

Enjoy these Japanese Wikipedia articles!

漫画
Notice that all the examples are of Western illustrations.

アメリカン・コミックス
The first line of which is, "アメリカン・コミックは、アメリカの漫画作品の総称である。"

And as the Japanese also call Western comics (both American and French) 漫画, so do they often call their own comics "コミックス", as a visit to any Japanese bookstore will make plain.

Incidently, up until the late 70s, when the term アニメ came into vogue, cartoons were also referred to as 漫画.
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Post by Yudan Taiteki » Wed 01.30.2008 9:22 am

Shirasagi: Also note that when you click on the "English" link at the left on the 漫画 wikipedia page, it takes you to "Comics" on the English wikipedia rather than "manga".

In my experience 漫画 is still used by non-anime fans to refer to anime, and in television schedules and the like, the term 漫画 is often used as something of a genre classification for animated shows. Perhaps because the vast majority of them are adaptations of manga?
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Post by saraLynne » Wed 01.30.2008 1:28 pm

On the contrary, I've never heard anyone use the term Manga unless they were already entrenched in the Japanese fanboy (--for lack of a better word) community. Japanese cartoons have always been called Anime by my friends and other peers at my local comic hangout, and they even called Japanese comic books "Anime-style comics".

I didn't learn the word Manga until years later when I subscribed through my comic shop to Animerica.

EDIT: and I suddenly realized you probably meant Japanese non-Anime fans.... ahem... oops... I'll leave the post anyway. :P
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Post by doinkies » Wed 01.30.2008 4:12 pm

Shirasagi wrote:
And as the Japanese also call Western comics (both American and French) 漫画, so do they often call their own comics "コミックス", as a visit to any Japanese bookstore will make plain.
There are even some manga magazines such as 少女コミック(少コミ) that use the word コミック in their titles. Though most of the time when I've heard Japanese manga called 「コミック」, it was in reference to the book editions (単行本) and just about all or most publishers' manga imprints have the word コミックス in their names.
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Post by two_heads_talking » Wed 01.30.2008 4:55 pm

As far as I was concerned manga is the Japanese word for comic(s) and in that light, yes comics do exist in America. However if you are referring to the style of drawing very common in Japan that you would find in their comics, that also is a yes, but they are not as common as has been shown adequately by the previous posters.

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