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RE: Americanization

Postby LeMichaels » Fri 01.04.2008 11:12 am

Chikara: I apologize. I did not read your comment as a joke, but rather a friendly “heads up” as to the correct spelling. And you are correct, the British English way of spelling will use an “S” and the American English way will more often use a “Z”. A quote from the dictionary I use states “Also, especially British, Americanise.”

I wonder if the difference in spelling is the effect of so many other cultures influencing America. Considering America was basically founded by the British, you’d think we would use more of the same terms and spellings. Some people almost seem to forget that America is the way it is now because of the major influences from the British, French, Spanish, Italian, and German. (Not trying to blame my country’s pitfalls on anyone :D)
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RE: Americanization

Postby Oracle » Fri 01.04.2008 11:13 am

Whenever I go the US people guess I'm either from England or "Europe" (?!) - guess you need an accent as over-the-top as the Crocodile Hunter's to be correctly identified as Australian :D

Chikara: -ise still seems much more common than -ize as far as I can see, but you do see both in the media. I think the average Australian would still use 's' if they have to spell something themselves though (hopefully).
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RE: Americanization

Postby two_heads_talking » Fri 01.04.2008 12:41 pm

LeMichaels wrote:
. Some people almost seem to forget that America is the way it is now because of the major influences from the British, French, Spanish, Italian, and German. (Not trying to blame my country’s pitfalls on anyone :D)


well if it was only those countries then our melting pot seems a bit thing. You can blame America on every country out there. because at one time or another immigrants made their way here from their homelands to have a better future for their families.

Europe, Africa, Asia, South America, North America and to lesser extents Antartica and the Arctic have all had an influence on The US (yes the US is part of North America, but there is much more to North America than just the US). It's one of the reasons the country is so diverse and also one of the reasons that so many different dialects exist today.

anyways..
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RE: Americanization

Postby spin13 » Fri 01.04.2008 2:10 pm

guitarplayer7694 wrote:
How much has japan been Americanized?


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Japan has been 0.6 Americanized.

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RE: Americanization

Postby two_heads_talking » Fri 01.04.2008 3:35 pm

and while spin is apologizing for the rest of us, he fails to answer your question satifactorily as well.

now isn't that just good customer service or what? lol
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RE: Americanization

Postby katafei » Fri 01.04.2008 7:05 pm

I think he was being very eloquent.


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RE: Americanization

Postby coco » Sat 01.05.2008 7:59 am

spin13 wrote:
Dear Mr. 7694,
…(略)…
Japan has been 0.6 Americanized.

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RE: Americanization

Postby Kagemaru » Sat 01.05.2008 2:31 pm

My two cents worth being;

Japan first absorbs whichever American or foreign influence they please, then Japanise it.
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RE: Americanization

Postby chikara » Sun 01.06.2008 7:37 pm

two_heads_talking wrote:
I mentioned Britain English as British to not include the Australian English as from what I can tell they were distinct and seperate.. Chikara are you of the impression that they are nearly identical? (of course accent and dialect aside)...

There are some differences in the written forms but the differences are fairly minor. Australia has only been independent from Britain for just over 100 years and our head of state is still the Queen of England. Non-British immigration was also very limited until post WWII so there hasn't been the "outside" influences to change the language here in the same way "American English" has been influenced.

two_heads_talking wrote:
I think the "STrine" you speak of chikara is similar (vaguely anways) to Cockney rhyming slang..

It certainly contains elements of Cockney rhyming slang. As the original European settlement in Australia was as a British penal colony in 1788 (after Britain lost 13 of its North American colonies) the seeds of Australian English were largely sown by poor unfortunates from London mixed with people of a similar social level from Ireland, all of which was occupied by the British at the time.

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... Japan has been 0.6 Americanized.

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RE: Americanization

Postby SinoSamurai » Mon 01.07.2008 5:32 pm

later the whole world will be Chinaized.................... :D
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RE: Americanization

Postby AJBryant » Mon 01.07.2008 8:16 pm

Well, if you ever saw the series Firefly, you'll see that whole galaxy was greatly Americanized *and* Sinified.


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RE: Americanization

Postby Wakannai » Mon 01.07.2008 8:18 pm

/sniff

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RE: Americanization

Postby chikara » Mon 01.07.2008 8:31 pm

AJBryant wrote:
Well, if you ever saw the series Firefly, you'll see that whole galaxy was greatly Americanized *and* Sinified. ...

I saw one sci-fi show where one space traveller observed that at that current time it was Spring time back on earth :o
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RE: Americanization

Postby AJBryant » Mon 01.07.2008 11:00 pm

Well, we all know that only northern hemisphere weather counts. I mean, you antipodean types even have water flushing the wrong way. :)


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RE: Americanization

Postby chikara » Mon 01.07.2008 11:10 pm

lol
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