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Postby Cyborg Ninja » Tue 08.29.2006 8:20 pm

Take this lightheartedly. I know about how Japanese will tend to avoid gaijin on trains, but what if you're gaijin and female? Will you suddenly have middle-aged men swarm you?
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby Harisenbon » Tue 08.29.2006 11:48 pm

I know about how Japanese will tend to avoid gaijin on trains


Do you know that to combat this problem, they now have entire trains just for gaijin? It's wonderfully uncrowded for the morning commutes.

but what if you're gaijin and female? Will you suddenly have middle-aged men swarm you?


What makes you think this?
I think you might have been reading too many train-porn comics or something.


By "lighthearted" you meant "be a sarcastic bastard," right? :D
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby Infidel » Wed 08.30.2006 12:24 am

I have had several girls, not particuarly attractive ones either, complain about being groped.

But then they laugh when they describe how the man runs away when she Stomps the ground real hard and starts to make a scene.
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby DeathOfSoul » Wed 08.30.2006 2:03 am

Harisenbon wrote:
I know about how Japanese will tend to avoid gaijin on trains


Do you know that to combat this problem, they now have entire trains just for gaijin? It's wonderfully uncrowded for the morning commutes.


They do? o.o I didn't know that...
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby keatonatron » Wed 08.30.2006 2:45 am

No. They don't. But they DO have cars just for women to avoid the groping problem. That makes for some happy lesbians :D

Anyway, the Japanese generally don't swarm anybody. Foreign (white) women are very popular in Japan. But that doesn't mean that people will just come up and talk to you (pretty women are much more intimidating than men!).
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby Harisenbon » Wed 08.30.2006 3:46 am

They do? o.o I didn't know that...


Sorry, I thought my sarcasm was more obvious. I'll use the sarcasm tags [sarcasm][/sarcasm] next time.

Anyway, the Japanese generally don't swarm anybody.


Except for Yon-sama

Foreign (white) women are very popular in Japan.


I actually haven't noticed that, but that may be a factor of me living in inaka. Most of the guy friends I have actually say most Japanese men are intimidated by foreign women. Most of the female JETs I used to work with called the JET program the "nunnery." ;)
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby keatonatron » Wed 08.30.2006 4:03 am

Harisenbon wrote:
I actually haven't noticed that, but that may be a factor of me living in inaka. Most of the guy friends I have actually say most Japanese men are intimidated by foreign women. Most of the female JETs I used to work with called the JET program the "nunnery." ;)


Really?? Yes, Japanese guys are very intimidated by foreign women, but that doesn't mean they are very interested in them. Pretty much every Japanese guy I've known has said at one point or another, of his own volition, "Man, I'd really love to date a western girl! You're a foreigner, don't you have any female foreigner-friends?"

Perhaps the people you knew in JET weren't outgoing enough. They're probably being used to being asked out back home, but here the Japanese guys are too shy to do something like that, even if they're really interested. So the girls wait for the guys to ask, and the guys wish the girls would ask because they're too nervous to ask themselves :D
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby john2 » Wed 08.30.2006 4:43 am

keatonatron wrote:
Harisenbon wrote:
I actually haven't noticed that, but that may be a factor of me living in inaka. Most of the guy friends I have actually say most Japanese men are intimidated by foreign women. Most of the female JETs I used to work with called the JET program the "nunnery." ;)


Really?? Yes, Japanese guys are very intimidated by foreign women, but that doesn't mean they are very interested in them. Pretty much every Japanese guy I've known has said at one point or another, of his own volition, "Man, I'd really love to date a western girl! You're a foreigner, don't you have any female foreigner-friends?"

Perhaps the people you knew in JET weren't outgoing enough. They're probably being used to being asked out back home, but here the Japanese guys are too shy to do something like that, even if they're really interested. So the girls wait for the guys to ask, and the guys wish the girls would ask because they're too nervous to ask themselves :D


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RE: Not a serious question

Postby KuroRounin » Wed 08.30.2006 6:35 am

O_o ?
u know,that's the 1st time i hear about the 'gaijin-avoiding' thing in trains..man,any more of this and i'll conclude officially that gaijin is a 'force-field-equipped species'!!!! :D
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby Reno » Wed 08.30.2006 6:51 am

john2 wrote:
man japans my country... girls actually ask out boys man that rocks *kisses oyu on the check*


Wish there were more of girls out there that say the same thing. :D
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby Infidel » Wed 08.30.2006 6:55 am

Perhaps the people you knew in JET weren't outgoing enough. They're probably being used to being asked out back home, but here the Japanese guys are too shy to do something like that, even if they're really interested.


It seems that way. I was reading some articles by some women in Japan trying to find Japanese men. The ones that were sucessful had to completely change their strategy and get agressive.
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby Mike Cash » Wed 08.30.2006 8:19 am

KuroRounin wrote:
O_o ?
u know,that's the 1st time i hear about the 'gaijin-avoiding' thing in trains.


It's not as common as it used to be. I can remember a time when being a gaijin on a train automatically meant that you got to sit very comfortably, with space on either side of you. I can also remember high school kids gathering in the vestibule to stare in through the window at the gaijin seated in the car, much as you or I would stare at snakes through the glass in the reptile house at the zoo.

Heck, I can even remember when one could ride the Yamanote Line and not even see another gaijin on the train....or in most of the stations.
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby keatonatron » Wed 08.30.2006 8:37 am

Mike Cash wrote:
Heck, I can even remember when one could ride the Yamanote Line and not even see another gaijin on the train....or in most of the stations.


The good ol' days, huh. Now the place is crawlin' with 'em.
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby two_heads_talking » Wed 08.30.2006 9:54 am

in Tohoku, you could be the only person on a train for hours.. gaijin or nihonjin.. lol.

i remember i could hear the high school kids talking about me when i was on a train, so i would just walk over and say hello. they would usually respond with a surprised look and then, when they found i could understand them, blammo, it was as if I wasn't so different.

think about it.. don't you too notice the one person on the train that looks different? the guy with dredds in his hair? the girl with the hot pink mohawk? the guy with the juggling pins, unicycle and hot pink pants? we all notice these things really.

as a gaijin you will be easy to spot. if you are female, of course men will look at you.. don't they do that where you come from? they aren't going to automatically just jump your bones on the train because you are gaijin..

if you feel uncomfortable on a train by yourself, make an effort to get in a car that is more full..
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RE: Not a serious question

Postby lomagu » Wed 08.30.2006 10:41 am

I think Japanese guys just don't know what to say to foreign women, or maybe even women in general. The company I work for sometimes has parties and I've been asked countless times by young to middle-aged (married and un-married) men the following questions: how old are you? (ok, standard), do you have a boyfriend?, do you like Japanese men?, what do you think of Japanese men?, are you looking for a boyfriend?. Everybody asks the same questions and sometimes the same question more than once. It's annoying. So, yeah, I guess they're interested in foreign women, but, I don't know, they have no tact?? You don't just start a conversation with, "Do you like Japanese men?" Ok, not everyone is like this, I just feel like ranting.

You'll never be swarmed by middle-aged men, but I think you just have to be aware of your situation. I was waiting for a late train one night in Hiroshima. I was standing outside the station because the weather was nice and I wanted to watch the people go by (I had nothing better to do). Anyway, I was approached by 4 men wanting to know if I wanted to go get a drink or hotel. Nothing bad happened, it's just annoying.
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