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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby Paragon » Fri 06.15.2007 6:56 pm

I remember reading about one 温泉 that said they put out a "JAPANESE ONLY" sign specifically because sometime in the past a bunch of 外人 (russians, I think) came in and caused a lot of trouble, so future 外人 drove away the more profitable 日本人customers.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby ghosthacker » Fri 06.15.2007 8:16 pm

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Would those Japanese Only bars and ofuro be not so much a deep rooted racism, but rather they wish to preserve the traditions and etiquette without having ignorant gaijin coming in and disrupting things? And from that first video, most of those pictures did say No gaijin without a Japanese escort. I would guess that the Japanese escort would be there to teach the gaijin the proper manners and behaviour inside the establishment.

Here in America we have class-discrimination, think of Country Clubs and Yacht Clubs, etc. Things reserved only for the upper-classes. Even if you earned the money to join, you'd still have to go through an interview to see if you're "club material" They're Members Only but we don't have any legislation to combat those. I thought the video was a little dumb to put the "Members Only" sign at the end. Being a private establishment has nothing to do with racism.


Upper class in Shinjuku !!! Sorry but that brought a smile to my face lol :)

No these where "Japanese only" not "members only" places if you know what i mean.

Franky some Japanese bars/night clubs in that area are "mafia" owned or operated from what i hear and will rip off any ganjin foolish enough to go there. Even the Japanese use care when bar hopping in Shinjuku. It's no big thing really as there are loads of great places to go and see in Tokyo. I would still go to the Shinjuku area as its a great place to see while in Tokyo( the under ground mall at the train station is really cool :) ). But for bars and such I would recommend the Akasaka-Roppongi area.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby ghosthacker » Fri 06.15.2007 8:19 pm

strange double post while editing for spelling..lol
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby keatonatron » Fri 06.15.2007 9:34 pm

I think a lot of it has to do with Japanese people being embarrassed.

When talking about public baths... I'm sure we've all heard the rumors about "size". Japanese people have heard them too, and I'm sure Japanese guys would start feeling a little uneasy when some big, beefy white dude walked into their public bath and started making comparisons. And laughing.

When talking about bars.... Most of the time those are hostess bars. If you don't really understand the purpose and workings of the hostess bar, there could be problems. Especially if the customer can't speak very good Japanese, there might be some communication problems and they might think they're buying a prostitute or something. Most activities in Japan can be enjoyed even if you don't speak Japanese, but the service provided by a hostess bar is only conversation. If you can't speak Japanese, you won't enjoy conversation. I think the "100% Japanese only rule" is just an easy way to avoid the confusion and embarrassment of the occasional tourist/sailor trying to enter.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby Hatori » Sat 06.16.2007 12:35 am

Basically any foreigners will stand out. I don't think you'll really have to worry being black because some people will have a fasination (I know I spelled it wrong.) or will just ignore you. It's basically just like taking a trip to any other country from what I've previously read.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby Kashin » Sat 06.16.2007 3:43 am

Yeah, "racism" in Japan wouldn't necessarily be the same "racism" you might see in America. America has such problems because of everything that happened with the slave trade and the resistors of the civil rights movement.
Any Japanese racism is more of a nationalist mentality as well as superiority complex. I hear Japanese Koreans and Chinese are often discriminated against in the same ways as western gaijin. It's not necessarily the color of your skin, it's more of the nation you are from.

When talking about public baths... I'm sure we've all heard the rumors about "size". Japanese people have heard them too, and I'm sure Japanese guys would start feeling a little uneasy when some big, beefy white dude walked into their public bath and started making comparisons. And laughing.

...lol^^ It reminds me of the "Chin Poko Mon" episode of South Park. :p

And yeah most of those seem to be pretty isolated cases, and as i've heard just like in every country there are far more decent, kind people in Japan than there are troublesome folks.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby Gundaetiapo » Sat 06.16.2007 9:21 am

I can understand sentou placing signs such as "Japanese people only" since the lack of etiquette likely drives away core business. I got to thinking that a much less offensive sign that accomplishes the same thing would be "Those fluent in Japanese only", since anyone who can speak Japanese surely learned the importance of sentou etiquette somewhere along the line.

Perhaps the former is simply a more basic translation, but I got to thinking about how the Japanese are far more likely to compliment someone based on skill than on personal appearence. For example "Your Japanese is really good" is more likely than "That's a great tie", from what I've read.

With that in mind it occured to me that perhaps the Japanese might actually think "Japanese people only" is less offensive than a sign remarking on a skill inadequecy: "Those fluent in Japanese only". Is there any truth to this hypothesis? If so that's one hell of a cultural difference.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby juddcarlos2003 » Thu 06.21.2007 9:17 pm

about http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com ...
I think that site is dedicated to being racist (my opinion)... what got me the most about that site was the last picture on this page: http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/hangingout.html

maybe these white people (assuming their american and no I´m not racist) were told to do this site at gunpoint
maybe some black people actually made them do it....
and in my opinion... anybody can take the pics on this page of the net... http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/testimonials.html
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby SirFirestorm » Thu 06.21.2007 10:30 pm

that site is not serious, it parodies stereotypes of how white people treat black people.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby Mike Cash » Fri 06.22.2007 7:32 am

juddcarlos2003 wrote:
I´m not racist

maybe some black people actually made them do it....


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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby soranoraito » Fri 06.22.2007 7:50 am

yeah, you're going to face racism in any just about any country you go to and there always will be a couple of idiotic-racists that you find. But any foreigner would stand out. But yeah,like Hatori said, most people will look at you with interest or ignore you.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby Mike Cash » Fri 06.22.2007 8:37 am

soranoraito wrote:
But any foreigner would stand out.


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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby sei » Tue 06.26.2007 6:05 pm

SirFirestorm wrote:
that site is not serious, it parodies stereotypes of how white people treat black people.


I'm not quite sure if you also meant this in your post but, most of the, I assume, made up quotes of the black people in that site, seemed to be making them dumb. And that is definitely racist.

I didn't really see any parody on how white people treat black people, I just saw white people trying to make black people look stupid.
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RE: Do the Japanese like black people?

Postby SirFirestorm » Tue 06.26.2007 8:29 pm

That is the joke. Those stereotypes are mostly inaccurate depictions made for the sole purpose of black humor. Few people think or honestly act that way in real life, but it parodies the stereotype of white people acting racist and not knowing it. You the reader are supposed to see the difference between acting racist and being racist.

Besides the race card gets thrown around too much.
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