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How many kanji?

Postby Infidel » Sun 11.20.2005 3:27 am

I'm writing a Japanese textbook guide. Could anyone who has one of the textbooks below let me know about how many Kanji are taught in each book? The number doesn't have to be exact but close.

I'm looking for Genki 1, Nakama 1, Nihongo no Kiso 1, Minna no Nihongo Shoku 1, Japanese for Everyone, Adventures in Japanese 1, Youkoso 1, Japanese Now, Lets Learn Japanese, Untangling Japanese 1,

If you have any personal opinions, especially about the more obscure titles, I'm interested in hearing them.

Thank you.
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby zengargoyle » Sun 11.20.2005 4:59 am

roughly...

Nakama 1 => 122
Nakama 2 => 427
Genki 1 => 303
Basic Kanji Book 1 => 601
A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters => 1945
Japanese the Written Language 1&2 => 482
Yookoso! 1 => 225
Yookoso! 2 => 311
Remembering the Kanji I => 2043

numbers generated from the dictionary files that come with the KingKanji software and a little bit of Perl.
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby Kates » Sun 11.20.2005 10:07 am

I personally counted the kanji lists in texts I own to double-check zen and found:

Youkoso 1: 170 (between 23-27 in each of 7 chapters)
Youkoso 2: 192 (between 24-30 in each of 7 chapters)
Nakama 1: 90 (about 15 in 6 chapters (ch7-12)
There's no list that I could find in the main "Minna" books--and I don't have the specific books for the kanji learning, , so I couldn't count there.
You didn't ask, but for the Basic/Intermediate Kanji books, the count is:
Basic 1: 1-251
Basic 2: 252-500
The Intermediates say "1000Plus" on them but they are organized a bit different. I can get a count from Intermediate 1 & 2 later if you like.

zen, I think your software is a little off. ^^;
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby appleraja » Sun 11.20.2005 12:46 pm

are u gonna published the text book or just post it on the internet?
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby zengargoyle » Sun 11.20.2005 7:09 pm

Kates wrote:
I personally counted the kanji lists in texts I own to double-check zen and found:

Youkoso 1: 170 (between 23-27 in each of 7 chapters)

zen, I think your software is a little off. ^^;


うそ! it must be the dictionary files. B) it's pratically impossible to count unique characters and come up with the wrong answer.

here are the 225 kanji used in the Youkoso 1 dictionary file:
〜一七万三上下中主九事二五交京人今休会伝何作使元兄先入全八六円冬出分切前力勉動北署迪゚半南原口台右同名向味和品員喫四回国土地場売夏夕外多夜大天太女好妹姉始子学室家寒小少屋山川左市平年店度引弟弱強彼後心思性悪意所手持数文料新方旅族日早明春昼時景暑暗曜書最月有服朝期木末本来東楽歩残母毎民気水河法洋海温湯源火熱父牛物理生用田男町番発白百真社秋空立米紙終考聞肉自色花茶荷行西見言話語説読貝質赤起趣足車近返速週運道遠部酒野量金長開間雨雪電青音風食飲高魚鳥黄黒

though for my purposes, kanji == not ( hiragana | katakana ), so that 「〜」might not really count :D since i don't have any of the books, i can't compare their contents to the dictionary files, maybe they give extra words (but it would be mean to include kanji not in the book), they could be using different variants of the same kanji in different places (also mean, but i would count each variant seperately), otherwise... not a clue.
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby Infidel » Sun 11.20.2005 9:43 pm

Thanks for the help so far. Appleraja: I'll probably make a textbook guide on Amazon since this is mainly to help prospective students make a decision about which textbook to use. And many of the titles above don't show on the standard search or are buried too deep for the average person to find.

I also wanted a page to link everytime someone comes on one of the Japanese boards I peruse and asks what textbook to buy.
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby Kates » Mon 11.21.2005 10:53 am

zen: Well, the number of kanji USED in a textbook differs, I'm sure, to the number of kanji TAUGHT. If ishnar wants TAUGHT, then my numbers are good (I hand-counted the lists for each chapter). But your numbers are probably good for the kanji USED in each text. After all, city/prefecture/family names are usually written with their kanji, with furigana, but the student is not expected to really learn them. (: Also, some texts show articles or recipes and things like that which may use kanji not taught in the books.
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby Qbe » Mon 11.21.2005 11:31 am

Japanese for Everyone says that it introduces about 450 kanji.
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby Infidel » Thu 07.06.2006 1:26 am

could someone tell me how many kanji are in genki 2? Thanks.
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RE: How many kanji?

Postby p2dski » Fri 07.07.2006 2:47 pm

genki 1 and genki 2 cover the first 300 Kanji on the Japanese Language Profiency Test from what I heard (I havn't seen book 2) so just look for a list of the JLPT level 3 Kanji.
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