格好いいだね〜

[Hensha]

I need to learn kanji, and I am learning more vocabulary in Japanese. I already know about 150+ kanji, and am reviewing first grade kanji before I move on to second grade.

I can read pretty good in Japanese, but I still scan katakana and kanji under Rikai. I am American, and I love Japanese culture in food and well, everything else.

Greet me please.

[Daisuke]

Welcome to The Japanese Page.

Good luck with your studies. I hope you find the site and it's features helpful to you.

[keatonatron]

It is should be 格好いいですね　or 格好いいね

Never mix だ with i-adjectives

Edit: ACTUALLY, that brings up something interesting... Just for kicks, I looked up 格好 in the dictionary, and noticed 格好いい is classified as an na-adjective! In the examples, it lists 格好いいじゃない。。。 However, 格好いい is supposed to be the shorter version of 格好がいい. Instead of 格好いいじゃない？ I've been saying 格好よくない？

What's everyone else's experiences with this word?? 格好よかった sounds better than 格好いいだった, but that might just be me...

[Mukade]

That's a good question. We should start a thread in Grammer about this.

In fact, I'll go do that now...

[keatonatron]

I looked it up. My original post was correct!

[AJBryant]

格好いいじゃない is not saying the same thing as 格好よくない. One is negative. The other is positive.

Tony

[keatonatron]

Right. Figured it out in the other post.

I was just confused because the WWWJDIC had it listed as an na-adjective, and this fella here used it like one so I thought maybe he knew something I didn't.

[Infidel]

AJBryant wrote:
格好いいじゃない is not saying the same thing as 格好よくない. One is negative. The other is positive.

Tony

This is the sound of my brain popping.

I thought -nai was negative. How can one be positive?

[AJBryant]

I thought -nai was negative. How can one be positive?

Think of the English: "Isn't that great?" -- note that that is actually a NEGATIVE sentence (Is it NOT great?) but the meaning is a positive one.

格好いいじゃない is *exactly* the same thing.

Tony

[Infidel]

so 格好よくない is isn't that great (positive) and 格好いいじゃない is isn't that great (sarcastic) ?

Rykk

[rodegia]

ところで、I have yet to see a Japanese person write 格好いい. My cell even pops it up as カッコイイ. There are several differences between かっこよくない and カッコイイじゃない.　かっこよくない is the negative form and means "not cool" which is a nicer way of saying "かっこわるい" (disgusting). Where they can mean the same is "Isn't that cool?" (not neccesarily sarcastic). However, カッコイイじゃない is only said by girls and is very feminine.

[natemb]

Marcvs3, welcome and good luck with your studies. It looks like you're already off to a great start!

Infidel-san and others who are interested in the discussion about 格好いい, Mukade-san has created a thread in the grammar section to continue this discussion: http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2889

Please read and post further questions there if you have them!

[Oracle]

rodegia wrote:
ところで、I have yet to see a Japanese person write 格好いい. My cell even pops it up as カッコイイ

Probably because it's かっこう , not かっこ　(which is 括弧, or "brackets")

[rodegia]

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