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Firefox 2.0 users

Postby paul_b » Thu 01.25.2007 7:45 am

There's this bug in Firefox 1.5 (shows up in Windows XP at least) with Japanese text entry on single line textboxes.

You can see it here
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwnewword.cgi
among many other places.

Replicate by
1. Type something in Japanese (note underline on 'active text')
2. Delete it.
3. Type something in English (half-width, direct input) text.
4. Type something in Japanese (note underline on active text is not visible)

Has that bug got fixed?
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby Lego » Thu 01.25.2007 8:07 am

firefox 2.0 and I don't have that bug (I'm using linux however)
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby paul_b » Thu 01.25.2007 8:17 am

Lego wrote:
firefox 2.0 and I don't have that bug (I'm using linux however)

Thanks. I think I'll wait to see if there are any Windows users out there though.

I upgraded past 1.5 on a beta and had to downgrade due to some (since forgotten) problems so I want to know I'm actually getting some improvements before trying again. :D
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby aKuMu » Thu 01.25.2007 8:44 am

Firefox 2.0 on Japanese Win XP SP2: No bug.
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby paul_b » Thu 01.25.2007 9:05 am

aKuMu wrote:
Firefox 2.0 on Japanese Win XP SP2: No bug.

Oh well. I'll download it and see how it goes - wish me luck. :D

[EDIT] Yup, that bug has gone - all OK so far.
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby paul_b » Thu 01.25.2007 4:38 pm

Whee! I got the "Right-click dictionary search" extension working again, so I guess I'll be keeping the upgrade. If anybody is really interested I'll tell you were to get the extension and how to use it (but it's a bit of a fiddle so don't bother if you're not going to use it anyway). I have mine set up to 大辞林(国語), WWWJDIC J->E and Yahoo.co.jp
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby hyperconjugated » Thu 01.25.2007 4:43 pm

paul_b wrote:
Whee! I got the "Right-click dictionary search" extension working again, so I guess I'll be keeping the upgrade. If anybody is really interested I'll tell you were to get the extension and how to use it (but it's a bit of a fiddle so don't bother if you're not going to use it anyway). I have mine set up to 大辞林(国語), WWWJDIC J->E and Yahoo.co.jp


I have just installed Rikaichan add-on,
is there much benefits doing it your way?
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby paul_b » Thu 01.25.2007 5:06 pm

hyperconjugated wrote:
I have just installed Rikaichan add-on,
is there much benefits doing it your way?


Well Rikaichan uses Edict. And Edict doesn't include every word (I should know, I've supplied a fair share of words to Edict ;-). Also Rikaichan is (I believe) not so good on pure kana words. I don't know whether Rikaichan works on words in _textfields_ but the Right-click dictionary search does. When I know how to type something but want to check the meaning I often use it.

Obviously it's not impossible to live without - it just cuts the time of "highlight text, copy text, open dictionary site, paste text, search" into "highlight text, right click, select dictionary".
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby hyperconjugated » Thu 01.25.2007 5:43 pm

paul_b wrote:
-clip-

That sounds pretty neat. I think at this
point I don't need the new and
improved but it's good to know there's
one available when that time comes :-)
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby Axlen » Thu 01.25.2007 8:45 pm

Hi Paul_b,

What is the name of the extension? Can you provide a link please?I tried searching for "Right-click dictionary search" but came up with nothing. I did find an extension named "Dictionary Lookup Extension 1.3 by mshabib" but the description does not indicate that it can be configured for other languages.

...
"DictionarySearch by Jaap Haitsma "
Wow, maybe I found it. Is this your post regarding this tool Paul?
Great, could be even better.

When dictionary searching for strings that are made 'url-safe' there is no way to force a specific encoding. For example dictionary.goo.ne.jp takes Japanese(EUC) encoding by default, Japanese text encoded in UTF-8 then made 'url-safe' turns into gibberish.

My rating: 4/5
Posted by Paul on Jan 25, 2007.
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby paul_b » Fri 01.26.2007 1:59 am

[quote]Axlen wrote:
"DictionarySearch by Jaap Haitsma "
Wow, maybe I found it. Is this your post regarding this tool Paul?[quote]
Yes, but not _that_ version. It gets complicated, so more when I finish waking up
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby paul_b » Fri 01.26.2007 2:45 am

OK I'm awake, mostly.

paul_b wrote:
Axlen wrote:
"DictionarySearch by Jaap Haitsma "
Wow, maybe I found it. Is this your post regarding this tool Paul?

Yes, but not _that_ version. It gets complicated, so more when I finish waking up

OK the latest standard version does not work with many Japanese dictionaries - it can only use UTF-8 encoding (as I complained about in my comment ;-).

There is a version 1.5 developed by somebody in Japan that allows you to set the encoding used. Unfortunately it has turned into a 404 :(

So I use another Japanese version that does everything in EUC-J (I think). It doesn't allow you to set encodings manually but it works with all the links I want to use so it's good enough for me. Unfortunately you have to edit the install file in order to get it to work with Firefox 2.0
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby Axlen » Fri 01.26.2007 9:03 pm

Sorry for waking you Paul ;)

There is a version 1.5 developed by somebody in Japan that allows you to set the encoding used. Unfortunately it has turned into a 404 :(


I found it by following links on this page:
http://bushwhacker.seesaa.net/category/877845-1.html

Get it directly from here:
dictionarysearch-J5-1.5.xpi

Maybe the 404 was related to network latency, but some of the links I tried in related documents would not work. If you still can't get it I can email it to you.
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby paul_b » Fri 01.26.2007 9:16 pm

Axlen wrote:
I found it by following links on this page:
http://bushwhacker.seesaa.net/category/877845-1.html

Get it directly from here:
dictionarysearch-J5-1.5.xpi


Yay! Got it fine from that link. I've just set up my three favorite search strings on it.
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RE: Firefox 2.0 users

Postby Axlen » Fri 01.26.2007 10:51 pm

Paul,

Thanks for the heads up on this extension. I've just got it working with dictionaries at Jim Breen's WWWJDIC and Ask.com.jp. Your right, it sure does take some serious fiddling to get it working right.
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