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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby AJBryant » Mon 10.08.2007 10:31 pm

two_heads_talking wrote:
Tony, when they stopped teaching phonetics and went to whole language, the whole grammar thing went right out the window. In fact, spelling seems to be an optional practice now too. I was in class with my daugther the other day and the teacher says, "Don't worry about punctuation, spelling or grammar." I nearly fell out of my chair.


You know, I've been thinking about trying to get a teaching license. It looks like Virginia needs me. :)


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RE: new entry on TJP

Postby sasuga » Tue 10.09.2007 4:21 am

Hi everyone,

I joined TJP today. I m working in Japan and I know japanese. I am interested in various aspects in japanese life style. Also, wanna improve my japanese too. This seems to be a nice forum for japanese knowing ppl & learners.

Cheers!!

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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby Feba » Tue 10.09.2007 4:47 am

randomperson wrote:
Feba wrote:
If TJP was a family->If TJP were a family

ah, british english.


Its not just "british english" you don't write "If TJP was a family" you write it as were. You can say "was" though. There's differences in how you write and speak.


No, it is British English.

In American English, group nouns (like companies, bands, organizations) are considered singular, whereas in British English they are considered plural.

An example I've used before-- "Aerosmith was an American band, but Def Leppard were a British band."

Unless you're assuming that TJP=The Website, and not TJP=The group of people, in which case I can understand what you mean, although given that this is asking "if TJP () a family", it's pretty clear it's talking about the group of people.
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby jt » Tue 10.09.2007 5:14 am

Feba wrote:
In American English, group nouns (like companies, bands, organizations) are considered singular, whereas in British English they are considered plural.

It has nothing to do with American versus British English or whether "TJP" is being considered singular or plural -- the subjunctive would work exactly the same way if the subject in question were "I", "she", "Boutros-Boutros Ghali" or some other undeniably singular noun.

If you're still not clear on this, refer to this this page or just do a Google search for "subjunctive."

Now, if you want to argue that this particular rule is regularly broken in everyday speech by educated native speakers without interfering with communication, and thus prescriptive grammarians should just shut up already -- fine, that's your right (though many people will disagree with you.)

Claiming that this is a British usage that just doesn't apply to American English, though, is simply incorrect.
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby Simon86 » Tue 10.09.2007 6:34 am

Gaddo wrote:
I'd be the little bro.


I'd be your evil twin that is actually the good one but was mistaken at birth for the evil one, then i get locked up in the loft for a decade eating fish out of a bucket and sucking moisture out of the rafters whislt i plan on stitching you and me back together like the pigeon rat i made, and getting revenge on our mother...
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby Rock Lee » Tue 10.09.2007 8:58 am

I would be the nice lively hard working lazy cousin! haha! :p
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby AJBryant » Tue 10.09.2007 9:36 am

sasuga wrote:
Hi everyone,

I joined TJP today. I m working in Japan and I know japanese. I am interested in various aspects in japanese life style. Also, wanna improve my japanese too. This seems to be a nice forum for japanese knowing ppl & learners.

Cheers!!

Sasuga:-))


Welcome.

AND DON'T HIJACK THREADS. ;)

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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby poppop » Tue 10.09.2007 10:52 am

this thread is already hijacked ;)
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby two_heads_talking » Tue 10.09.2007 12:23 pm

chikara wrote:
two_heads_talking wrote:
... I was in class with my daugther the other day and the teacher says, "Don't worry about punctuation, spelling or grammar." ......

Shouldn't that be "said"? "Was" is past tense, "says" is present tense. ;)


see what happens when you are around a teacher that doesn't care about grammar? it rubs off way too easily.. (grin)
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby katafei » Tue 10.09.2007 1:35 pm

AJBryant wrote:
AND DON'T HIJACK THREADS. ;)
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby Dehitay » Tue 10.09.2007 2:01 pm

poppop wrote:
this thread is already hijacked ;)


There's a difference between hijacking and derailing. But either way, the people on the train aren't getting where they want to go any time soon.
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby Hatori » Tue 10.09.2007 5:03 pm

I think we should get back to talking about family members... I'm crying twin waterfalls!
我是老师。我是老师。我是老师。我是老师。我是老师。我是老师。我是老师。
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby Gan » Tue 10.09.2007 5:07 pm

I'd be that strange guy one who write poems, likes horror movies, and novels. Loves the color black but is also caring. I'd also be the guy that if you talked to the wrong way he would explode because he's bipolar. So "Emo" lurker guy bro i guess.
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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby Seapony » Tue 10.09.2007 5:20 pm

I'm the degenerate wild child that regularly leaves home only to return months later as though nothing ever happened.

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RE: If TJP were a family...

Postby Miyu-rin » Tue 10.09.2007 6:11 pm

I'd totally be the youngest daughter. xD (13 years old)
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