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grammar help on ゆきの物語

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grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby m_ » Fri 05.11.2007 7:58 am

I have started trying to read ゆきの物語 and so far can follow the storyline, but there are some parts of the grammar I need help. :D

昔々(むかしむかし)、ある小(ちい)さな村(むら)にゆきという娘(むすめ)がおばあさんと二人(ふたり)で暮(く)らしていました。

how does the という comes in? I can't get who is quoting who.
娘 = daughter? I thought Yuki is a young guy with his mother. Who is the daughter here? :D

そして、ゆきと結婚(けっこん)したいという者(もの)も、誰(だれ)一人(ひとり)として現(あらわ)れたことはありませんでした。

I dun understand what does the という means again..

is there a english translated version of the story? I would want to be sure Im understanding what Im reading correctly :D
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Fri 05.11.2007 8:14 am

という can also mean "to be named" or "to be called". ゆきという娘 = "A daughter called yuki". Yuki is a girl (Yuuki is the guy's name).

という in the second instance is a descriptor, basically. "A person to whom Yuki wants to get married."
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby richvh » Fri 05.11.2007 8:33 am

That should be "A person who wants to marry Yuki."

I'm moving this (like other threads about ゆきの物語) to the special section dedicated to it.
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby m_ » Sat 05.12.2007 5:03 am

I realised it is Yuki and her grandmother :D.. still dun understand how does the daughter char 娘 comes in.
I can understand the storyline in general but not sure of every grammar used, but reading this is so enjoyable :D

第二章 - 漁師(りょうし)との出会(であ)い
what does the との means? y are 2 particles used?
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby m_ » Sat 05.12.2007 5:23 am

間(ま)もなくゆきは海(うみ)に着(つ)きました。砂浜(すなはま)で漁師(りょうし)が網(あみ)に開(あ)いた穴(あな)を繕(つくろ)っていました。

それからゆきは砂浜(すなはま)に座(すわ)りな がら網(あみ)を繕(つくろ)って、その間に漁師(りょうし)は海岸(かいがん)で貝(かい)を取(と)りました。

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開(あ)いた
座(すわ)りな
are these verb congugations? it doesnt look familiar to me at all.

これからどこに行くところなのですか」と漁師(りょうし)は聞(き)きました。
what does なの means? how is it used?
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby sgerdan » Sat 05.12.2007 6:55 am

yes ,they are verb conjugations.
開く (to be open) --開(あ)いた (was open)

座り(ながら) its " while sitting ".
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby m_ » Sat 05.12.2007 6:59 am

thanks ! i got ながら from Jim Breen's :D
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby sgerdan » Sat 05.12.2007 7:28 am

どういたしまして
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby richvh » Sat 05.12.2007 7:41 am

m_ wrote:
I realised it is Yuki and her grandmother :D.. still dun understand how does the daughter char 娘 comes in.


A lot of the relationship words can describe rough ages. 娘 - young woman, 母さん - young mother, おばさん - middle aged woman, おばあさん - old woman. That's what 娘 is doing here.

I can understand the storyline in general but not sure of every grammar used, but reading this is so enjoyable :D

第二章 - 漁師(りょうし)との出会(であ)い
what does the との means? y are 2 particles used?

と is "with" here, and の indicates that the phrase 漁師と is modifying 出会い.
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby m_ » Sun 05.13.2007 2:43 am

thanks ! how about なの ? :)
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RE: grammar help on ゆきの物語

Postby richvh » Sun 05.13.2007 7:56 am

Before の, だ become な. See Tae Kim on の as explanation
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