Creating kanji or chinese symbols as an art-form

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Creating kanji or chinese symbols as an art-form

Post by kentaku_sama » Wed 04.22.2009 2:11 am

I thought since Kanji and japanese symbols were so beautiful and awesome, I would like to create some totally original symbols just for fun, not to use in context!! I thought that it would be kinda neat to paint them in brush caligraphy and give them a reading. I wonder if this could be considered an art form. Another thing about it is that you could even go beyond kanji and chinese normal radicles and invent some totally orignal radicles and even strokes like this symbol:
Image The radicle on the left is not in any japanese or chinese symbol. ALthough If I wanted to input them into a computer that is impossible (for free) as far as I know. I've tried but using Private character editor makes a HORRIBLE mess when making a kanji.

here's one I made as kind of a joke: LOL! Image
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Post by Bucko » Wed 04.22.2009 6:04 am

Ah yeah, kind of link Shakespeare inventing new words. :lol:

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Post by Mike Cash » Wed 04.22.2009 10:35 am

Can you make a radicle for icical?
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Post by kentaku_sama » Wed 04.22.2009 6:32 pm

Sure here you go, that symbol means Icicle and it has the "Icicle" radicle to the left.
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Post by Hyperworm » Wed 04.22.2009 8:26 pm

*whoosh*


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It's an interesting idea. The balance of your character construction could do with a little work though; they feel a bit misproportioned. ;)
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Post by furrykef » Wed 04.22.2009 9:49 pm

What Mike Cash was trying to subtly point out was that you kept spelling "radical" as "radicle". So he spelled "icicle" as "icical", deliberately making the reverse mistake. (I didn't get it either at first, but that's 'cause I didn't notice the "radicle" spelling mistake.)
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Post by kentaku_sama » Thu 04.23.2009 1:00 pm

What Mike Cash was trying to subtly point out was that you kept spelling "radical" as "radicle". So he spelled "icicle" as "icical", deliberately making the reverse mistake. (I didn't get it either at first, but that's 'cause I didn't notice the "radicle" spelling mistake.)


:shock: Well I still like the icicle symbol.

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Post by AJBryant » Thu 04.23.2009 3:08 pm

I also enjoy fake kanji.

But something that needs to be understood is *how* kanji are made -- rather than just being random applications of radicals... er, radicles... radicals, there is a method to the madness.

Consider these new kanji:

Image

Kanji one could be icicle -- because it indicates ICE under a ROOF. (I almost went with an ice radical and 屋... maybe I should have).

So....

What are the other three kanji?

Kanji two: 鬼+母 =【きょういくまま】

Kanji three:【ジャングル】(Under the logical progression of 木=tree, 林=woods, 森=forest)

Kanji four:【デンシ・レンジ】(If 焼く means cooking with 火, then cooking with 電 would be kanji four. :) )

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Post by Mike Cash » Thu 04.23.2009 5:28 pm

AJBryant wrote:
Kanji two: 鬼+母 =【きょういくまま】



Or a contraction of 鬼母 (おにはは) into a single kanji.....
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Post by AJBryant » Thu 04.23.2009 5:47 pm

Mike Cash wrote:
AJBryant wrote:
Kanji two: 鬼+母 =【きょういくまま】



Or a contraction of 鬼母 (おにはは) into a single kanji.....


I always had a blind spot for 鬼母. (It's a family thing.)

But I should have said that, yeah. Sigh.


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Post by Harisenbon » Thu 04.23.2009 8:08 pm

AJBryant wrote:I always had a blind spot for 鬼母. (It's a family thing.)


I looked at it and thought "mother in law" ;)

笑点 has a corner like this sometimes, where they combine kanji and radicals<sp> to make up new characters.

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Post by kentaku_sama » Thu 04.23.2009 8:31 pm

How did you make kanji that are so clean and straight, photoshop?

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Post by ニッキー » Thu 04.23.2009 11:06 pm

AJBryant wrote:I also enjoy fake kanji.

But something that needs to be understood is *how* kanji are made -- rather than just being random applications of radicals... er, radicles... radicals, there is a method to the madness.

Consider these new kanji:

Image

Kanji one could be icicle -- because it indicates ICE under a ROOF. (I almost went with an ice radical and 屋... maybe I should have).

So....

What are the other three kanji?

Kanji two: 鬼+母 =【きょういくまま】

Kanji three:【ジャングル】(Under the logical progression of 木=tree, 林=woods, 森=forest)

Kanji four:【デンシ・レンジ】(If 焼く means cooking with 火, then cooking with 電 would be kanji four. :) )


There's actually a character similar to number 3 in Unicode already: http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUniha ... utf8=false :D I like yours more though, I like symmetry of it.

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Post by becki_kanou » Thu 04.23.2009 11:26 pm

AJBryant wrote:Consider these new kanji:
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Kanji three:【ジャングル】(Under the logical progression of 木=tree, 林=woods, 森=forest)


My friends and I "invented" this exact kanji+reading in college when we went through our phase of "fooling around with kanji".

Another one I remember was :
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The reading is: 【ナッツ】
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Post by AJBryant » Fri 04.24.2009 1:03 am

Got some more. :)

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1. 【るす】(人のない内は「るす」)

2. 【ダンボー】

3. 【スペース・シップ】

4. 【カッター】(船の種類)

5. 【シャイ・フルード】(「砂の惑星」から)

6. 【パンプ】(女性の靴)

7. 【ガールフレンド】

8. 【ゴルドフィシュ】

9. 【ウィングマン】(バーに行く時の特別の友達)

10. 【ペーパータイガー】

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