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colloquial Japanese
How can I learn this? Besides living in Japan.
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Re: colloquial Japanese
A lot of guides (such as Tae Kim's) cover some colloquialisms, but perhaps the best way to get acquainted with it would be to watch Japanese TV (anime would probably not be the best example unless you're careful to figure out what sorts of stuff people say in anime but not in real life).
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Re: colloquial Japanese
It also depends on what exactly you mean by "colloquial". Most beginner classes and books cover "colloquial" Japanese in the sense that they cover the language that is used in everyday speech, but they tend not to cover very casual speech or slang; that's not really something you should learn first anyway. You have to understand the basic grammar and structure before you can handle extremely casual stuff.
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Re: colloquial Japanese
Japan Yahoo Chat. Seriously. Hang out in the middle school room for about a month and your head will be spinning wild.
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Re: colloquial Japanese
Ugh. I wouldn't consider text-speak, l33t-sp33k, etc. to be colloquial English; why would it be colloquial Japanese? 
(OK, technicially it is colloquial speech, but when somebody says "I want to learn colloquial speech", they usually don't mean "d00d im sk8tn".
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(OK, technicially it is colloquial speech, but when somebody says "I want to learn colloquial speech", they usually don't mean "d00d im sk8tn".

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Re: colloquial Japanese
Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.furrykef wrote:Ugh. I wouldn't consider text-speak, l33t-sp33k, etc. to be colloquial English; why would it be colloquial Japanese?
They simply write informally (and quite close to how they actually talk) when conversing on the internet.
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Re: colloquial Japanese
I wouldn't say that. My experience is that they write fairly different when being on chats. But then again it all depends what kind of chat and who they are talking with.keatonatron wrote:Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.furrykef wrote:Ugh. I wouldn't consider text-speak, l33t-sp33k, etc. to be colloquial English; why would it be colloquial Japanese?
They simply write informally (and quite close to how they actually talk) when conversing on the internet.
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Re: colloquial Japanese
「⊇σ,ζ,"З<"ち∋ーぉм○UЗ<Йё~」keatonatron wrote: Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.
「このぶろぐちょーおもしろくね?」

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Re: colloquial Japanese
I've always thought it must take a really long time to type in ギャル文字. I have no idea how to type half of that...NileCat wrote:「⊇σ,ζ,"З<"ち∋ーぉм○UЗ<Йё~」keatonatron wrote: Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.
「このぶろぐちょーおもしろくね?」
そうだ、嬉しいんだ、生きる喜び!
例え胸の傷が痛んでも。
例え胸の傷が痛んでも。
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Re: colloquial Japanese
NileCat wrote:「⊇σ,ζ,"З<"ち∋ーぉм○UЗ<Йё~」keatonatron wrote: Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.
「このぶろぐちょーおもしろくね?」

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Re: colloquial Japanese
*has a try at typing that*
⊇σ,ζ,"3<"ち∋ーぉм○U3<Йë~
しゅうごう しぐま , ぜーた , " 3 < " しゅうごう - ぉ ろしあ まる U 3 < ろしあ E ~
That took a little while
(My knowledge of Cyrillic is pitiful
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Maybe there are custom IME dictionaries that will convert ね into Йë and lots of other corruptions for you, so you don't have to do what I just did? .-.
⊇σ,ζ,"3<"ち∋ーぉм○U3<Йë~
しゅうごう しぐま , ぜーた , " 3 < " しゅうごう - ぉ ろしあ まる U 3 < ろしあ E ~
That took a little while

(My knowledge of Cyrillic is pitiful

Maybe there are custom IME dictionaries that will convert ね into Йë and lots of other corruptions for you, so you don't have to do what I just did? .-.
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Re: colloquial Japanese
(泣)NileCat wrote:「⊇σ,ζ,"З<"ち∋ーぉм○UЗ<Йё~」
「このぶろぐちょーおもしろくね?」

Re: colloquial Japanese
There's voice chatting in there too.
Honestly nobody uses codes like that.
Honestly nobody uses codes like that.
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Re: colloquial Japanese
Considering NileCat is Japanese and just typed that, I'd have to disagree with your assessment.mbridge wrote:There's voice chatting in there too.
Honestly nobody uses codes like that.
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Re: colloquial Japanese
I think mbridge meant nobody does it in Yahoo chat rooms.
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