帰国子女

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帰国子女

Post by tanuki » Tue 08.01.2006 7:35 pm

Hello!

In another thread (last post), I read this:

coco wrote:
帰国子女は口語でも「彼」「彼女」をよく使いますが、もともと姓を知っている相手のことを「彼」「彼女」と呼ぶことは、礼儀正しいことは考えられていません。


...which brings me to the question: what's exactly a 帰国子女? The only thing I know is that the person was born in Japan, raised in another country and has then come back (right?). But, does it matter of what nationality their parents where? How much time did they (the person) stay in Japan before leaving? Before coming back?

I would appreciate if you could help me understand the concept of 帰国子女. Thanks a lot in advance! Bye!
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Post by Ezrach » Tue 08.01.2006 9:35 pm

They are typically raised in another country, and return at a later age. There is no defined amount of time. The only difference between them and an American born Japanese is that the 帰国子女 never really loses the Japanese identity, despite having been raised for a significant amount of time in a different country. So, they are "returnees".

On a sidenote, they are often ostracized by their peers for being somehow less Japanese, like they had somehow been tainted by a foreign country. The Japanese can be extremely xenophobic.

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Post by Shibakoen » Tue 08.01.2006 9:51 pm

My girlfriend has a few close friends who are "returnees". I don't notice any difference, really, in how they were treated. Then again, I really wasn't exposed to "xenophobic" Japanese. I mean if my friends were xenophobic, then logically they probably wouldn't have wanted to meet me in the first place, I guess.

It's just that coming from a "red state," I'd seen more American xenophobia in my year in Greenville, NC than I had in my year in Tokyo. Granted Greenville's much more rural and "backward" even than Tokyo.
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Post by Harisenbon » Fri 08.04.2006 2:50 am

One should note that because there is no set time you need to be abroad to be considered a 帰国子女, many students will go abroad for a year in High School, come back to Japan and be considered 帰国子女, without being able to really speak english.

This is particularly obnoxious for most college students, as the college entrance exams for 帰国子女 are much simpler than those for students who spent all 3 years in a Japanese school.

This is also a tactic used by parents of "less than capable" children to get them into a good college.

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Post by TrilinguisT » Fri 08.04.2006 5:25 am

口 what exactly is this character? For some reason, i cant see it. It just a box ...

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Post by paul_b » Fri 08.04.2006 5:31 am

TrilinguisT wrote:
口 what exactly is this character? For some reason, i cant see it. It just a box ...

Well if you don't quote the surrounding characters how the heck are we supposed to know?

*ahem* However in this case I'm guessing you're just unfamiliar with the kanji or the word 口語 【こうご】 (n) colloquial language; (P)
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Post by AJBryant » Fri 08.04.2006 9:07 am

Trilinguist, DO NOT HIJACK THREADS!!!

How many times have I posted this note to people?

If you have a question, START A THREAD.

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Post by keatonatron » Fri 08.04.2006 9:09 am

That's all it is... just a box. :D

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RE: 帰国子女

Post by tanuki » Fri 08.04.2006 12:58 pm

TrilinguisT wrote:
口 what exactly is this character? For some reason, i cant see it. It just a box ...


I interpret it as an empty jail cell or a country without balls.
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Post by richvh » Fri 08.04.2006 1:04 pm

No, it's a Guchi display case.
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Post by paul_b » Fri 08.04.2006 1:12 pm

AJBryant wrote:
Trilinguist, DO NOT HIJACK THREADS!!!

To be fair this was a question about text in the first post in this thread.

It was a very poorly worded question about text in the first post in this thread but there was at least a thread of a connection.

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Post by keatonatron » Fri 08.04.2006 2:28 pm

I guess I'll post the first non-sarcastic answer. It's actually a picture of a mouth. It's read as くち, and means, well, mouth.

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Post by paul_b » Fri 08.04.2006 2:31 pm

keatonatron wrote:
I guess I'll post the first non-sarcastic answer.

Look six posts up from your post.

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Post by AJBryant » Fri 08.04.2006 3:38 pm

To be fair this was a question about text in the first post in this thread.


You know, I never noticed that. You're right. My apologies, T.

But... damn. The kanji for MOUTH!?


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RE: 帰国子女

Post by two_heads_talking » Fri 08.04.2006 4:38 pm

Some one needs to disarm the resident katana weilder.. Tony, please turn in your weapon for 1 hour.. during this time, take a deep breath, perform the tea ceremony and then do kata for the rest of the time.. Then return to your post ... thank you.. :o rofl

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