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RE: Learn English here!

Postby paul_b » Sat 01.13.2007 11:29 am

Mike Cash wrote:
Chris Hart wrote:


Definately American Dialect, but FORCED, and really weird accents.


The term you're looking for may be "stilted".

Or maybe not....

Hmm, I think there's a bit of overlap there.
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby tanuki » Sat 01.13.2007 11:32 am

She's forced to listen to the man's voice every lesson. :|

Poor woman.
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby richvh » Sat 01.13.2007 11:50 am

shin1ro wrote:
...oops! I'm the one who's been learning English long time by NHK radio (but I don't pay for the program or textbooks)....
To me, Vacation in Taiwan's atomosphere is very much like conversation in NHK radio program which I'm used to... がっかり... :(

For me,I couldn't hear it as "I'm from Americar" or "Americer" from the man's speech. I know I'm not good at listening English. I heard from someone from US, Boston people tend to speak "Pahk the Cah" for "park the car", but what the members here mention is not like this...
But...I can easily recognize the woman speaks American English.

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Bostonians both drop "r"s (pahk the cah) and add "r"s (barth, Americer, etc.)
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby keatonatron » Sat 01.13.2007 12:06 pm

That still doesn't explain why they say "going on a holiday" even though they're both American (well, she is and he claims to be) or why he pronounces "cultures" like "culches" (well, maybe it does explain the second one).
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby shin1ro » Sat 01.13.2007 1:30 pm

richvh wrote:
Bostonians both drop "r"s (pahk the cah) and add "r"s (barth, Americer, etc.)

Oh my...interesting! Bostonians seem to be ひねくれ者... :)

I want to visit Boston some time...I'm a great jazz fan and there's Berklee. There may found many places where young students playing advanced jazz around there....?

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RE: Learn English here!

Postby Chris Hart » Thu 07.05.2007 4:22 pm

keatonatron wrote:
That still doesn't explain why they say "going on a holiday" even though they're both American (well, she is and he claims to be) or why he pronounces "cultures" like "culches" (well, maybe it does explain the second one).

I agree, it looks like they may be trying (not very successfully) to mix dialects, or speak in a dialect they aren't familiar with.
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby tanuki » Thu 07.05.2007 4:46 pm

Chris Hart, you just replied to an almost-six-months old thread.
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby SenescenceReign » Thu 07.05.2007 5:43 pm

Don't worry. I'm sure we've all been there?
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby tanuki » Thu 07.05.2007 7:30 pm

No! I never necropost!

I'm not that annoyed by necroposting as long as the title is informative. For example, I knew this thread was old even before I came into it because I remembered the title, but if someone were to necropost on a thread called "help!!!" how on earth would you know if the thread is old?

And if the revived thread contains the word "naruto" not associated with the word "hate" (or something like that), then I start losing my sanity.
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby SenescenceReign » Thu 07.05.2007 8:00 pm

Well... when I first started here I did a lot of necroposting (I didn't know there was a term for it, even). Maybe he just didn't know better, either?
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby chikara » Thu 07.05.2007 8:18 pm

angstycoder wrote:
If someone said "Americer" my first thought would be Aussie or Kiwi....
Definitely not an Aussie.

keatonatron wrote:
That still doesn't explain why they say "going on a holiday" .....
What's wrong with saying that. It is perfectly good English ;)
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby Chris Hart » Fri 07.06.2007 8:13 am

chikara wrote:
keatonatron wrote:
That still doesn't explain why they say "going on a holiday" .....
What's wrong with saying that. It is perfectly good English ;)

The only problem is it doesn't match with the dialect they were forcing throughout the rest of the dialog. They kept forcing the American dialect, where we would say "going on a vacation". In American English, a holiday is a specific day, generally associated with government, banks, and businesses being closed, or having some specific religous significance. Some examples would be Independence Day, Christmas, Veteran's Day, New Year's day...

My being brought back to this thread was prompted by Javizy's question over at japanesepod101.com
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby AJBryant » Fri 07.06.2007 9:16 am

I know a *LOT* of Americans who say "going on a holiday."

The BRITISH equivalent would be to leave the "a" off. "Going on holiday," "He's in hospital," etc.

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RE: Learn English here!

Postby Chris Hart » Fri 07.06.2007 9:56 am

AJBryant wrote:
I know a *LOT* of Americans who say "going on a holiday."

The BRITISH equivalent would be to leave the "a" off. "Going on holiday," "He's in hospital," etc.

Tony

Must be differences in our areas. Where I'm from, you wouldn't hear of someone "going on a holiday". I'm from Toledo, OH.
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RE: Learn English here!

Postby AJBryant » Fri 07.06.2007 12:01 pm

I grew up in Indiana, and I heard it. <shrug>
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