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名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby neo2407 » Tue 05.01.2007 8:41 am

Hey, does anyone else find it spooky that the Japanese word for name (なまえ) is very similar to the English word?
Now I assume since the word has kanji, that it wasn't taken from English. So what are the chances that 2 languages that evolved on opposite sides of the planet would come up with similar words for a person's name?
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby lalaith » Tue 05.01.2007 9:01 am

neo2407 wrote:
Hey, does anyone else find it spooky that the Japanese word for name (なまえ) is very similar to the English word?


No.

Check out this site:
http://members.aol.com/yahyam/coincidence.html

Coincidences happen.

(Gin & tonic, anyone? :D)
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Postby Teh_Freak » Tue 05.01.2007 9:09 am

I do find it rather odd, but stuff happens.
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby neo2407 » Tue 05.01.2007 9:40 am

lalaith wrote:
neo2407 wrote:
Hey, does anyone else find it spooky that the Japanese word for name (なまえ) is very similar to the English word?


No.

Check out this site:
http://members.aol.com/yahyam/coincidence.html

Coincidences happen.

(Gin & tonic, anyone? :D)


Or is a coincidence? (<_<) (>_>) (<_<) *Pulls out conspiracy theory book*. Just kidding.
Actually name being なまえ in Japanese makes it a lot easier to remember. Thank god for coincidence.
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby Kdar » Tue 05.01.2007 9:52 am

lalaith wrote:
neo2407 wrote:
Hey, does anyone else find it spooky that the Japanese word for name (なまえ) is very similar to the English word?


No.

Check out this site:
http://members.aol.com/yahyam/coincidence.html

Coincidences happen.

(Gin & tonic, anyone? :D)


Not all of those word in the list are exactly coincidence...
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby hungryhotei » Tue 05.01.2007 9:56 am

I don't actually think the words are similar enough for it to be spooky. 名前 does look like 'name' when it is written in romaji, but I personally don't think that the sounds resemble each other that closely. By the way, 'name' written in Japanese is ネーム.
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby coco » Tue 05.01.2007 9:59 am

清水義範, a Japanese novelist, once wrote a funny short story about this subject.
A main character is a paranoid professor. He insists that an origin of English language is Japanese! He took(picked?) up some words and said, a "kill" came from 斬る(kiru), "battle" came from 場取る(batoru). 坊や(boya) became a boy. Of course 名前(namae) became a name. :D
( That story was kind of a sarcasm for linguists.)

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Postby AJBryant » Tue 05.01.2007 11:56 am

Hey, does anyone else find it spooky that the Japanese word for name (なまえ) is very similar to the English word?


Not in the least.
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby two_heads_talking » Tue 05.01.2007 12:19 pm

if you break down the kanji for namae なまえ (名前) and you get nothing similar to name.. nothing at all..
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby Ezrach » Tue 05.01.2007 12:30 pm

It's a useful mnemonic device for beginner students, nothing more.
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby HeyItsMatt » Tue 05.01.2007 5:00 pm

neo2407 wrote:
Hey, does anyone else find it spooky that the Japanese word for name (なまえ) is very similar to the English word?
Now I assume since the word has kanji, that it wasn't taken from English. So what are the chances that 2 languages that evolved on opposite sides of the planet would come up with similar words for a person's name?


Actually, what I find spooky is that I was thinking this exact same thing last night in bed. I was planning to make a thread on it today but forgot about it until I saw your thread here. I was also wondering if it was just a coincidence since "namae" is not written in katakana.
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby lalaith » Tue 05.01.2007 5:06 pm

coco wrote:
( That story was kind of a sarcasm for linguists.)


So was my "gin & tonic" mention. It's a cross-reference to the novel in Tanuki's revived "Geekiness test level 1". In it there's a satirical commentary about linguistic coincidence i.e. every world developed a language which has a drink pronounced "gin and tonic" -- something that drives all the linguists crazy trying to explain it.
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby Tspoonami » Tue 05.01.2007 6:30 pm

I wonder how many 'coincidences' can be attributed to language developments through trade, and the spreading ofthe Indo-European peoples/languages.
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RE: 名前 【なまえ】 and Name...spooky...

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Tue 05.01.2007 6:59 pm

Well, sometimes "coincidences" do point to a common source language, but the "coincidences" have to be numerous and patterned for that to apply.
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Postby Gundaetiapo » Tue 05.01.2007 9:02 pm

If you have 50 people in a room, the chances of two people having the same birthday is 97%.

Just for your knowledge.
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