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Is Japan running out of room?

Postby ContagiousWatermelon » Thu 06.28.2007 2:59 pm

As far as I know, Japan has a very dense population packed in to a country the size of California... How much room can they possibly have? How do they not have a population crisis? :o
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby Lego » Thu 06.28.2007 3:06 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... on_density

as you can see, there are a lot of places more crowded than japan ;)
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby two_heads_talking » Thu 06.28.2007 4:04 pm

yep, no more room for anyone.. in fact one more person on that island will sink it..
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby Jotrin » Fri 06.29.2007 7:47 pm

Last I heard their population was going down due to lack of births. So yes, a population crisis - but of a different kind. Too many old people. ;)
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby Oracle » Fri 06.29.2007 10:04 pm

2006 was the last year where the population was still growing - I saw on a Japanese news program that the population of Japan in 100 years time will be about half its current level if the birth rate remains the same. (and according to this joke news article (japanese) in 1000 years they'll be down to one guy living in Saitama!)
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby katafei » Sat 06.30.2007 3:41 am

That list of density is interesting, but not entirely representative. I couldn't help noticing Holland is more dense ;) then Japan, but ours is a flat country so there is still more space for each of us.

@Jotrin: ouch! Don't say there are too many old people! They have all been young as well, you know.

Japan does struggle with a shortage of space and I gather the Japanese have had to become very inventive on using it to the full.

And so: fold up the table, get your futon from the cupboard and presto:
the living room has turned into a bedroom.

How about those 'cubicle-room hotels'?
Pachinko's with very small, very verticle machines.
Cremation taking over burial for lack of space
etc, etc..

And I believe Japanese government is urging people to have more children so that elderly care will remain possible.
(We face the same problem in Europe, but I have always felt increasing birth rate is pretty much a short-term solution as it will enhance so many other problems! At the same time, I'm just a tat bit worried about my pension!)
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby Infidel » Sat 06.30.2007 4:07 am

if birthrate is too so that the population is declining, then increasing birth rate is a long-term solution.

Last year I saw a video that placed Japan as having the worst birth-rate in the world right now. They showed an example of one kid alone in a classroom because there was no one else in the same grade.
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby katafei » Sat 06.30.2007 4:12 am

Well, on the whole I think humankind is hardly an endangered species :D
But the problem is far more complex, I'll grant you that ;)
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby keatonatron » Sat 06.30.2007 11:50 am

katafei wrote:
Well, on the whole I think humankind is hardly an endangered species :D


With so many nukes and unstable people with their fingers on the buttons, I'm not so sure about that :D
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby tanuki » Sat 06.30.2007 12:45 pm

I agree with keatonatron, just without the laughing smiley.
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby Infidel » Sat 06.30.2007 6:11 pm

well they can't be too unstable or nukes would be flying on a nearly daily basis.
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby Ezrach » Sat 06.30.2007 10:48 pm

Infidel wrote:
Last year I saw a video that placed Japan as having the worst birth-rate in the world right now.


The video production team must have never heard of Korea?

Birth rates:
Japan 1.25
Korea 1.16

Then, also, consider that 10% of marriages in Korea in 2006 were to foreign nationals (I doubt it's that high in Japan). Korea, like Japan, allows dual citizenship only up until adulthood, when the child must choose which citizenship to keep. I doubt my daughter will throw away her American citizenship when she can easily get an "F-4 visa" in Korea which allows her, as the daughter of a Korean national, to live and work in the country with no restrictions. Now apply that to a possible 10% of all births from 2006 - 2026 is looking bleak.

Infidel wrote:They showed an example of one kid alone in a classroom because there was no one else in the same grade.


Ah, sounds like propaganda then. Where was this classroom? I'm going to say not in the heart of Tokyo.
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby Infidel » Sat 06.30.2007 11:39 pm

well, I assumed it was the most dramatic example not a typical one. They never intimated that it was typical. It was somewhere in northern Japan. It was a normal sized school, looked like what would be a 3 or 4 star school in the US.

Since the show was in 2006, it could have been using 2005 statistics.
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby keatonatron » Sat 06.30.2007 11:40 pm

Ezrach wrote:
Infidel wrote:They showed an example of one kid alone in a classroom because there was no one else in the same grade.


Ah, sounds like propaganda then. Where was this classroom? I'm going to say not in the heart of Tokyo.


I think I remember seeing that, but it was somewhere way out in the country in this tiny town with a population of like 150 or something.
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RE: Is Japan running out of room?

Postby Dehitay » Sun 07.01.2007 11:01 am

In America, classrooms of 1 student are actually pretty common. We tend to call it homeschooling though. There are a number of towns where the population is so small that schools can't really afford classes. However, some of those towns do still build schools anyways and allow either parents (or some kind of super teacher that can teach all grades) to teach their children there with materials provided by the city's small budget for education. Actually, the idea of an Amish community is really coming to mind now
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