Kanji is too...

[Yudan Taiteki]

I'm still wondering what that kanji for "large amount" is.

[Advent_Sun]

Yudan Taiteki wrote:
I'm still wondering what that kanji for "large amount" is.

I'll check. I do you all get those japanese fonts?

[SirFirestorm]

I think I'll call him... mini-John.

typos you said?

[Infidel]

little john

[two_heads_talking]

Yudan Taiteki wrote:
Don't confuse words with kanji. 竹刀 is two kanji (the former is "bamboo", not "tree"), and 森 (forest) is one.

I believe what he/she was saying is the one kanji for forest has 3 little tree kanjis in it.. not that it was 3 seperate trees.. sometimes I wonder if you guys really read before you pounce.. sheesh.. We need a leash over here now..

[Yudan Taiteki]

It was the other way around; he seemed to be grouping 竹刀 in with 森 as "a complex kanji". Confusion between kanji and words is a common beginner problem so there's no harm in emphasizing it.

[chikara]

xhilononi234 wrote:
.... "baught" is just a typo, in the US "bought" is still spelt B-O-U-G-H-T lol

No kidding

Advent_Sun wrote:
.... I do you all get those japanese fonts?

Yep, definitely Little John

[xeto]

OK. I have "memorized" about 100 kanji . How many would I have to know in order to start reading and learning kanji in context? Also, where is a good site to do so?

[Yudan Taiteki]

How many would I have to know in order to start reading and learning kanji in context?

Depends on what you mean. If you get a textbook like Basic Kanji Book or Reading Japanese, it doesn't matter how many kanji you know. But, you do need grammatical knowledge to be able to read sentences.

Learning kanji in isolation is never useful. It's not like you have to learn a certain minimum number of kanji in isolation before you can move on to other methods.

Also, where is a good site to do so?

Is there one? I recommend at textbook, not Internet sites.

[xeto]

Ok, this helps a little.
どうもありがとう、たいてきさん。
(@ Advent_sun):
About what was mentioned earlier in the thread about learning vocabulary before kanji, that's what I've recently been trying to do. I've been studying a JLPT 4 vocab list, and it's very helpful with learning the kanji.

[Shinigami]

joooda wrote:
i hate punctuation i never used it an never will only mabe the "...." or "?"
the rest is quite useless

punctuation does actually change the meanings of sentences.
e.g
as the sun turned red, people moved into the shade
OR
as the sun turned, red people moved into the shade

[AJBryant]

Another critical example:

"I'm dividing my money evenly between you and Bob and Susan" (= three shares)
and
"I'm dividing my money evenly between you, and Bob and Susan" (= two shares)

[richvh]

AJBryant wrote:
Another critical example:

"I'm dividing my money evenly between you and Bob and Susan" (= three shares)
and
"I'm dividing my money evenly between you, and Bob and Susan" (= two shares)

In your second sentence, the first "and" seems odd to me. Is this a regionalism, or have you just be studying Japanese (も…も) too long?

[AJBryant]

Nope. It was an example given to me by a lawyer friend once a long time ago when we were talking about the importance of precision in legal texts. That inclusion of a comma led to a lawsuit over a perceived "inequal bequeathal" of a deceased parent's estate. The ultimate ruling, as I understand it, was that because of the comma in the document, and the usage of the 'and Bob and Susan' as an implied grouping, the intent was two portions -- had there been no comma, it would have meant three portions.

Tony

[katafei]

Yes, it took me a second reading before I understood what you meant.
The two 'and's are a bit awkward, but if you leave the first one out, you'd be left with 3 portions again, wouldn't you?