Yudan Taiteki wrote:
This is exactly what I mean by bias. Pretty much by definition, if you require subtitles, you are not qualified to comment on the quality of their translation.
And fansubbers are? This is just the usual nonsensical translator-bashing that I see out of anime fans. No wonder I never really wanted to get into that business.
I am not at a level to say I can understand each and everything in anime but I can understand grammar structure and at least nuances of a sentence if I know the vocabulary. I am neither clueless nor proficient, I was just saying it is not babelfished, but I dont know if you are speaking out of extensive experience or perhaps you just saw some bad fansubs.
The point I was trying to make was that since fansubs are free, it is less difficult to find a native Japanese person somewhere on the world wide internet that is also an anime fan and would like to sub. Even if the person is not Japanese, the information can be found on the internet, and often fansub groups will take the time to look up that information in the interests of preserving the meanings. Fansubs are made by fans, for fans, not money. They aren't all teenagers that claimed to learn Japanese from anime, some subbers are Japanese-american people with spare time and a love for anime, others have taken university classes or something. Just because they don't work professionally as a subber shouldn't mean all of them are retarded.
Anime companies though... do you think they will spend the money hiring a professional translator from Japan, or taking the cheap route and hiring some guy in the states that says he speaks Japanese. As you can see from dubs in America, they do not hold original Japanese meanings in high regard and often butcher anime to appeal to their target audience. I am pretty sure they would not spend the time or money to research Japanese jokes.
This is just my biased opinion on the matter, but I am curious to know why you think professional translators are better. They get paid for it so they have a better knowledge of Japanese?