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how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby Rock Lee » Mon 08.06.2007 7:10 am

just a quick question! how can I say" of the" on Japanese!??? for example "I'm lord of the galaxy"

I was able to write some of the phrase (私 侯"of the"銀河)
and thank you! :)
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby hungryhotei » Mon 08.06.2007 8:23 am

Have you leaned about the particle の yet?
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Postby punkgrl326 » Mon 08.06.2007 1:57 pm

The Particle の
Hope that helps :)
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby Rock Lee » Wed 08.08.2007 8:03 am

sorry was having internet problem the last two days so I couldn't reply to this! :|

urmm...no! I haven't learned anything about の :|

and punkgrl the link isn't working!
( if you can get me the right link I would be thankful!)

and thanx for you r replys you two! :)
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby richvh » Wed 08.08.2007 8:30 am

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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby Rock Lee » Wed 08.08.2007 9:08 am

richvh wrote:
Try this link.


ok! thank you very much rich! *starts looking!*

thanx for your help again! :D
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby Rock Lee » Sun 08.12.2007 1:25 pm

I see...I see...

as I understood the の can play "of the" part on my phrase! ( right!??? )

私侯の銀河

and thank you very much! :)
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Sun 08.12.2007 2:37 pm

Three problems.

1. 侯 might be listed as "lord" in the dictionary, but "marquis" is a better translation. It can't really be used for something as big as the galaxy. From what I've seen, 支配者(しはいしゃ) is a common phrase for "ruler".

2. Your order is wrong for の. The modifier has to come first, so it's 銀河の支配者 (or 銀河の侯 if you still want to go with that).

3. You should at least put a comma after 私, but a particle (は or が) might work too. Depends on the context.
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Postby Yudan Taiteki » Sun 08.12.2007 3:00 pm

「様」は勘弁してください...
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby Rock Lee » Sun 08.12.2007 3:16 pm

Yudan Taiteki wrote:
Three problems.

1. 侯 might be listed as "lord" in the dictionary, but "marquis" is a better translation. It can't really be used for something as big as the galaxy. From what I've seen, 支配者(しはいしゃ) is a common phrase for "ruler".

2. Your order is wrong for の. The modifier has to come first, so it's 銀河の支配者 (or 銀河の侯 if you still want to go with that).

3. You should at least put a comma after 私, but a particle (は or が) might work too. Depends on the context.


first I really want to thank you for your big help Yudan! :D

and as I understand from your 3rd point I need to add (ha) (,) or (ga) after watashi right!???

now...it would look like this 私 if I used ha!
and it would be like this 私 if I used ga!

just to make sure! both 私は and 私が means I am! right!???

I have a question...why don't I use わ (wa) instead of は(ha) or が(ga) ???

and thank you very much! :)

( sorry if I'm a little annoying with my a lot of questions :| )
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby dark_fire11 » Sun 08.12.2007 9:20 pm

Both 私は and 私が would be acceptable in this situation. There are differences between the two, and I suggest you look them up (and memorize them, so you don't have to go back to the first page of your textbook or whatever every 10 minutes like I do.) However, neither of them really mean 'I am', and thinking so will cause confusion in the future. 私 simply means I, and は and が mark the topic.

私は銀河の支配者 would be "I (subject) ruler of galaxy.' Words such as 'am' (though this one does exist) and 'the' are thrown into the translation when it is converted to english, and are not actually a part of the original Japanese sentence.

I have a question...why don't I use わ (wa) instead of は(ha) or が(ga) ???


One of those unimportant reasons dating back into history, I'd assume. Wa is always written with は when it is used as a particle, for reasons I never bothered to find out.
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Sun 08.12.2007 9:40 pm

私 without any particle would be acceptable as well. But I think discussions of this are really beyond the scope of this thread, because it is impossible to decide between 私, 私は, and 私が when you're dealing with a contextless nonsense phrase.
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RE: how can I say" of the" on Japanese!???

Postby Rock Lee » Mon 08.13.2007 8:33 am

I see!

I'll go with 私は銀河の支配者!

I really want to thanx every one who helped me with my questions!

rich for giving me the link yuadn for his really helpful explanation and dark fire as well! :D

you guys really helped me out today!

ありがと ございました!!!
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