Negatives of will.

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Negatives of will.

Post by john2 » Sat 09.22.2007 8:42 pm

what if i want to say I don't want or let's not, we should not.
in fact what would be should?, or shan't in japanese!(shan't opposite of should.)
I think I add content since I don't like making thread's that start out with a void, so here,
I know たべたい たべましょ たべる also thing's other then the formal form, may be nice. polite form also in fact give me both versions.
would wouldn't like to do something be 食べたいない。or would it be something different?
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by richvh » Sat 09.22.2007 9:14 pm

やめたほうがいい - let's not, you shouldn't, etc.
食べたくない - I don't want to eat
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by Gundaetiapo » Sat 09.22.2007 9:14 pm

What are you using for a textbook, john2?

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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by john2 » Sat 09.22.2007 9:52 pm

so the first one is a rather long japanese word.(never learned such a long one before).
and the second one is the conjugation, which i guess
食べたくない would imply a word morphing of たい were final い results into it being replaced by く and then it's just followed by ない right? if not you really don't need to explain more in depth. if yes Are their any more rules like that? i'd insist on you explaining with more depth if no, then you need to explain in much better detail.

reply to second post, I don't have one.
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by Infidel » Sat 09.22.2007 11:38 pm

reply to second post, I don't have one.
I'd rectify that soonest. Having a structured study plan is a major advantage.
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by I-samu » Sun 09.23.2007 2:05 pm

You have some more options.
There's べき。
勉強するべき
勉強しないべき

Then たら. You use tara when someone asks your advice.
お腹はすいたんです。どうする?I'm hungry, what should I do?
食べたら You should eat/have you tried eating?
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by john2 » Sun 09.23.2007 3:52 pm

I-samu wrote:
食べするべき
you should eat.
食べしないベキ
you shouldn't eat.

and the same here,
行くするべき
行くしないべき

If I'm wrong tell me.

Infidel wrote:
reply to second post, I don't have one.
I'd rectify that soonest. Having a structured study plan is a major advantage.
Do you have to tell me now, why not a year ago?
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by katafei » Sun 09.23.2007 4:09 pm

john2 wrote:
Infidel wrote:
reply to second post, I don't have one.
Brill, I thought you didn't have an answer Image
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by Gundaetiapo » Sun 09.23.2007 6:49 pm

食べするべき
you should eat.
食べしないベキ
you shouldn't eat.

and the same here,
行くするべき
行くしないべき

If I'm wrong tell me.
All of those are wrong. Buy a textbook john2.

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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by john2 » Sun 09.23.2007 6:58 pm

Gundaetiapo wrote:
食べするべき
you should eat.
食べしないベキ
you shouldn't eat.

and the same here,
行くするべき
行くしないべき

If I'm wrong tell me.
All of those are wrong. Buy a textbook john2.
:(,
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by hungryhotei » Sun 09.23.2007 7:52 pm

john2 wrote:
Infidel wrote:
reply to second post, I don't have one.
I'd rectify that soonest. Having a structured study plan is a major advantage.
Do you have to tell me now, why not a year ago?
I can't even tell if this is sarcastic or not. :o
You've been here around here quite a while John, so you should have noticed that everyday there is a thread where someone is being advised that they should be using a textbook to study.
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by Mike Cash » Sun 09.23.2007 9:09 pm

The optimism of those taking him seriously is heart-warming.
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by Tspoonami » Sun 09.23.2007 10:50 pm

Mike Cash wrote:
The optimism of those taking him seriously is heart-warming.
I read his post, and didn't even realise it was John. Only when skimming through the thread did I notice that... I was about to post a helpful answer, too.

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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by john2 » Mon 09.24.2007 4:57 pm

I do actually read what people say In my threads'. Actually with every mistake You uncover, You are one step closer, to both improving my english and my japanese, or both my japanese and my english.

Also If I knew the rules of how to negate these thing's i wouldn't ask.
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RE: Negatives of will.

Post by two_heads_talking » Tue 09.25.2007 9:27 am

that's why they are suggesting you get a textbook. iku and taberu are already verbs and don't need suru added to them to make them negative or positive. you need to learn to conjegate the original verb and then you can work on the grammar principles.

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