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Japanese "since" cause and time reference

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Re: Japanese "since" cause and time reference

Postby スーゼン » Wed 09.09.2009 5:54 am

furrykef wrote:
スーゼン wrote:"1時間がかかた  is the plain past form of かかる not かかった  :?: (かかる、かかって、かかった)


Huh? Where did you get this from? The past form of かかる is definitely かかった。 The past tense form of every single verb that ends with -aru is -atta.

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read the few posts above mine. We were discussing "take time" :wink:

EDIT: I should have quoted them, but I was in kind of a hurry. Sorry.
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Re: Japanese "since" cause and time reference

Postby furrykef » Wed 09.09.2009 6:11 am

Yes, but none of those posts had かかた or 掛かた. Hence I was confused when you asked, "1時間がかかた  is the plain past form of かかる not かかった  :?: " -- I was wondering where かかた came from.
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Re: Japanese "since" cause and time reference

Postby スーゼン » Wed 09.09.2009 7:08 am

OMG furrykef, I see what I did. You know what I think happened? I had copied Nilecat's examples into my notebook from the computer and I was working out of that when I misspelled it. ARGH. How embarrassing :oops: Sorry, everyone. Don't mind me! (Nilecat is probably wondering what this is all about.)

I've corrected my notes, and I'm gonna go study up on these conjugations. Thanks!
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Re: Japanese "since" cause and time reference

Postby furrykef » Wed 09.09.2009 8:05 am

Don't worry about it. We all make mistakes. :)
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Re: Japanese "since" cause and time reference

Postby NileCat » Wed 09.09.2009 1:27 pm

I have no idea how you study Japnese though, in Japan, children must memorize the verb conjugations at school. There is no other way but rote learning. I remember that was terribly boring. :)

For instance, "かかる" is categorized as a form called "ラ行五段活用". (well...I'm not sure. I might be wrong)
I used to repeat after my teacher, going like "ra, ri, ru, ru, re, re", over and over again.

かかない・・・未然形
かかます・・・連用形
かか・・・終止形
かかとき・・・連体形
かかば・・・仮定形
かか・・・命令形

I had to do a similar thing when I learnd French, like "je mange - tu manges - il mange - vous mangez -nous mangeons"...(I eat, you eat, he eats...)
In that respect, English seems much more logical than Japanese to me. :)
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