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Post by Hektor6766 » Wed 10.06.2010 12:24 pm

I run across this situation a lot while reading news stories, and it confuses me:
How should I read 公表し? Is it the noun form of "to publicly reveal" (but there's the を, so that wouldn't be right, and to say something like "in the published report" would require で, and は would need to follow the whole phrase, I think ) ? Is it the conjunctive particle (not a cause-effect context)? It's certainly not a list. Is it journalistic short-hand for 公表した?

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Re: し

Post by furrykef » Wed 10.06.2010 2:08 pm

Hektor6766 wrote:Is it journalistic short-hand for 公表した?
Almost! It's 公表して. It's mostly used only in writing (I thought it was largely journalese, but I saw it in the narration for a children's video game the other day), but when indicating a sequence of actions, you can use the bare masu stem instead of the te form. One exception here is いる, which becomes おり rather than just い (since just い could be confusing). いて would be the same length, though, so I don't know why they don't just use that instead...
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Re: し

Post by NileCat » Wed 10.06.2010 2:15 pm

The inflected forms of the verb する are:
し/せ/さ (未然形)
し (連用形)
する (終止形)
する (連体形)
すれ (仮定形)
しろ/せよ (命令形)
They are called サ行変格活用.

The word 公表し in your sentence is the 連用形 of the word 公表する.
One of the functions of the 連用形 is sometimes called as "中止形".
It performs to "stop" the sentence temporarily.

I had breakfast<stop!>brushed my teeth.
Meaning-wise, it means "comma and", I think, because;
朝ご飯を食べ歯を磨いた (no punctuation mark) is also fine in Japanese.

Makes sense?

EDIT: (kef'd ninja'd me!)
As kef-san wrote, it's almost the same as 朝ご飯を食べて歯を磨いた in meaning. But the grammatical definition would somewhat differ, I think.

And kef-san is absolutely right although we sometimes use the form in our casual conversation as well.
We usually put an accent on the し(連用形 of する) and り (連用形 of 入る) in order to convey the nuance of "stopping (comma)".
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Re: し

Post by Hektor6766 » Wed 10.06.2010 2:57 pm

Ah! So it is a noun-based verb, like 勉強する. In a lot of the textbooks here, they call it the Base 2 form (I should review Kamerman's Intro to Grammar and Syntax). I keep forgetting that form in favor of the -te form for continuations. And it is used in conjunctions, too (I think the comma me off a little).

Thanks to you both!

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