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Postby Cherie061403 » Fri 11.25.2005 2:00 pm

I purchased a new book "Basic connections" and it uses sentences like this one:
nani de iku n' desu ka.


Nihon de wa doko ni irassharu n' desu ka.

What does the n' mean? I haven't encountered it before this book. Also the book uses nani in a sentence. Isn't it supposed to be nan? Unless used alone? Thanks in advance! ^_^
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RE: n' ?

Postby richvh » Fri 11.25.2005 3:12 pm

The plain form of a verb or adjective, in either its present or past form, plus -no-desu or -n-desu is used under the following circumstances:

(1) when emphatically giving reason or offering an explanation.
(2) when asking for an explanation with concern
(3) when displaying emotional emphasis

I think your example fits into category 2 above.
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RE: n' ?

Postby zengargoyle » Fri 11.25.2005 4:03 pm

also, n' is used in roomaji to show that the 'n' is the sylabic 'n' and not attached to the following vowel.

単衣 (たんい) (n) unlined kimono;

たんい == tan'i
たに == tani
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RE: n' ?

Postby mandolin » Fri 11.25.2005 4:13 pm

I concurr with richvh on the use of -no desu and -ndesu.

As far as your book using n' in the romaji, there's a reason that's not very clear from those particular examples.

It's used for the ん kana. There's quite a few words/phrases that are someone ambiguous when writte out in roman letters. Like "manichi".

Is it ma-n-i-chi or ma-ni-chi?

man'ichi is more clear, and you know it's んい and not に.

I wasn't exactly sure which sort of answer you were after for the n' so I figured I'd cover the base that rich hadn't already. :)

Nani vs nan... I think nan would fit there better, myself. nan de iku ndesu ka. Maybe someone further along than I am would be able to give a reason your book uses the full 'nani'. Hrm.
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RE: n' ?

Postby Infidel » Sat 11.26.2005 12:28 am

So far as I know, nan is usually for numbers.
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RE: n' ?

Postby Harisenbon » Sat 11.26.2005 12:55 pm

なん isn't just for numbers


Or did you mean something else?
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RE: n' ?

Postby Infidel » Sat 11.26.2005 9:01 pm

I didn't say just for numbers, usually for numbers. There are exceptions to everything.
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