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base 5 form. おう
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base 5 form. おう
I've seen a verb conjugated in the base 5 form, followed by "tomo".
the phrasal is....
"...見ようともしないで...”
i've never seen base 5 followed by tomo. can anyone explain? thanks

the phrasal is....
"...見ようともしないで...”
i've never seen base 5 followed by tomo. can anyone explain? thanks
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RE: base 5 form. おう
i'd guess by the little context provided that it's:
供 (とも) (n,vs) accompanying; attendant; companion; retinue; (P);
... 見よう(not together)で... or some such. but it's just a guess.
供 (とも) (n,vs) accompanying; attendant; companion; retinue; (P);
... 見よう(not together)で... or some such. but it's just a guess.
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zengargoyle - Posts: 1200
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RE: base 5 form. おう
ya man, thanks,
i don't know. all i know is that in my dictionary tomo is also defined as:
(whatever, whoever, whichever)may...
and the example is 何が起ころうとも = whatever may happen
notice, okoru (to happen) in the base 5 form here.
i'm now guessing...見ようとも = may look !?!?
(verb base 5) + tomo = may do (verb)

i don't know. all i know is that in my dictionary tomo is also defined as:
(whatever, whoever, whichever)may...
and the example is 何が起ころうとも = whatever may happen
notice, okoru (to happen) in the base 5 form here.
i'm now guessing...見ようとも = may look !?!?
(verb base 5) + tomo = may do (verb)
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RE: base 5 form. おう
i think we need more context.
at the end of a sentence it's a strong indicator.
君、本当にUFOを見たのか?
you really saw a UFO?
見たとも。
i saw it all right.
after adjectives it indicates an approximate limit.
遅くとも来週までにわお返事をください。
please give me an answer by next week at the latest.
with donnani/doredake it expresses absolute determination.
どんなに苦しくとも頑張って走るぞ。
no matter how hard it may be, i'll give it my best and run.
those are from A Dictionary of Japanese Particles (Kawashima). sadly none of them specifically cover the 'after volitional verb, with more stuff following'.
we'll probably have to wait for some more skillful help...
at the end of a sentence it's a strong indicator.
君、本当にUFOを見たのか?
you really saw a UFO?
見たとも。
i saw it all right.
after adjectives it indicates an approximate limit.
遅くとも来週までにわお返事をください。
please give me an answer by next week at the latest.
with donnani/doredake it expresses absolute determination.
どんなに苦しくとも頑張って走るぞ。
no matter how hard it may be, i'll give it my best and run.
those are from A Dictionary of Japanese Particles (Kawashima). sadly none of them specifically cover the 'after volitional verb, with more stuff following'.
we'll probably have to wait for some more skillful help...
Last edited by zengargoyle on Wed 11.30.2005 7:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
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zengargoyle - Posts: 1200
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RE: base 5 form. おう
here's the sentence.
ラッキーマンは倒れた人を見ようともしないで、ャtァに腰をおろした。
the lucky man, without even looking at the fallen man, lowered his waist to the sofa.
so, i think base5 + tomo + shinaide, means without even doing something...
anyone know any websites that teach more of this japanese grammar?
ラッキーマンは倒れた人を見ようともしないで、ャtァに腰をおろした。
the lucky man, without even looking at the fallen man, lowered his waist to the sofa.
so, i think base5 + tomo + shinaide, means without even doing something...
anyone know any websites that teach more of this japanese grammar?
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