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くちゃは?

Post by tanuki » Tue 05.16.2006 8:24 pm

Hello, people!

How are you doing? I learned that (one of many ways of) saying "I must go" is:

行かなくてはダメ

Now, I learned that a casual version to the くて is くちゃ, and that you can leave the rest and just say 行かなくちゃ. However, what if I wanted to say the rest? Would it be:

行かなくちゃダメ

or

行かなくちゃダメ ?

My logic says "the は version", however I heard a song when they used this structure without the は. Now, I know songs are usually gramatically incorrect because of rythm, etc., so they might just have decided not to say that は intentionally (EDIT: decided intentionally? God, I hope my English teacher won't read this! ;)). That's why I'm asking you guys :).

Thanks in advance for your replies, bye!
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RE: くちゃは?

Post by hungryhotei » Tue 05.16.2006 8:39 pm

ちゃ is the abbreviation of ては not くて. With that all of your problems should be solved.

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RE: くちゃは?

Post by defrex » Tue 05.16.2006 10:19 pm

There is nothing wrong with 'decided intentionally', BTW.

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RE: くちゃは?

Post by keatonatron » Wed 05.17.2006 4:24 am

Listen to the Hungry Hungry Hotei.

Oh how I wish that were a board game involving marbles and lots of hitting.

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RE: くちゃは?

Post by tanuki » Wed 05.17.2006 1:04 pm

ちゃ is the abbreviation of ては not くて. With that all of your problems should be solved.


Well, not all of my problems, but it did solve this one. ;) Thanks.

There is nothing wrong with 'decided intentionally', BTW.


Can you decide something unintentionally?

keatonatron wrote:
Listen to the Hungry Hungry Hotei.

Oh how I wish that were a board game involving marbles and lots of hitting.


Huh? I think I'm missing something here...
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RE: くちゃは?

Post by richvh » Wed 05.17.2006 1:13 pm

American board game of some years back, "Hungry Hungry Hippos". Involves up to 4 players and a lot of marbles. Each player hits the lever that causes the hippo heads to chomp down, hopefully gobbling a marble. Person who ends up with the most marbles wins.

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RE: くちゃは?

Post by defrex » Wed 05.17.2006 2:08 pm

hmm, well, say you have a decision to make, and you don't intend to make it. Just let it pass by. However, unintentionally, you do something that makes the decision set.

You have decided something unintentionaly.

^_^

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Post by two_heads_talking » Wed 05.17.2006 2:26 pm

defrex wrote:
hmm, well, say you have a decision to make, and you don't intend to make it. Just let it pass by. However, unintentionally, you do something that makes the decision set.

You have decided something unintentionaly.

^_^


you are splitting hairs as you decided nothing.. but your actions caused it to be decided for you.. intentional or otherwise..

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