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RE: n-desu
the" -n desu" is the polite form of "-n da." "-nda" is the shorter and easier way to say "no" or "noda" (just a "no" is very feminine, so guys and most girls usually add a "da" or "desu" at the end).
Basically, the -nda is an explainatory tone:
なぜからがすきの? - why do you like him? (the "no" at the end implies that the person wants an explaination)
いい人んだ。- he is a good person (explainatory tone)
Basically, the -nda is an explainatory tone:
なぜからがすきの? - why do you like him? (the "no" at the end implies that the person wants an explaination)
いい人んだ。- he is a good person (explainatory tone)
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Spaztick - Posts: 482
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RE: n-desu
Just remember that the んです form is used slightly differently with verbs, adjectives and nouns.
With verbs and い-adjectives, you just add んです:
高いんです。
食べるんですよ。(Keep your verb in Plain Form!)
With な-adjectives and nouns, you add な and then んです:
元気なんですね。
いい人なんです。
With verbs and い-adjectives, you just add んです:
高いんです。
食べるんですよ。(Keep your verb in Plain Form!)
With な-adjectives and nouns, you add な and then んです:
元気なんですね。
いい人なんです。
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RE: n-desu
I've been wondering, how do you know when it's just a regular noun or a "na" noun/adjective/etc?
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Spaztick - Posts: 482
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RE: n-desu
Eh...well there is no such thing as a "na" noun. The rule of using ん です is simply that when using it after any noun you add な and then ん です。
The question does apply to adjectives though. Knowing an adjective is a な adjective or an い adjective is just something you have to learn with the adjective. Of course an い adjective ends with the extra い sound so you when you see words like 忙しい or 難しい you just know it is an い adjective. Where most people get confused is words like きれい that end in い but are really な adjectives. As a rule of thumb, I just learn な adjectives with the な as apart of the pronunciation. I believe most people learn like this anyway. So I know きれい as きれい な or 静か as 静か な. Most dictionaries also list adjectives with the word and then in parenthesis whether it is i or na.
Then as I always say..in Japanese there are the weird things.. like 大きい and 大き な. Sigh..
Edit: I also wanted to throw in there are 5 reasons in total for using n desu - explanatory, redundancy, request, regret, and exclamation. Don't really want to run through them all, but I'm sure you can find explanations on them somewhere.
The question does apply to adjectives though. Knowing an adjective is a な adjective or an い adjective is just something you have to learn with the adjective. Of course an い adjective ends with the extra い sound so you when you see words like 忙しい or 難しい you just know it is an い adjective. Where most people get confused is words like きれい that end in い but are really な adjectives. As a rule of thumb, I just learn な adjectives with the な as apart of the pronunciation. I believe most people learn like this anyway. So I know きれい as きれい な or 静か as 静か な. Most dictionaries also list adjectives with the word and then in parenthesis whether it is i or na.
Then as I always say..in Japanese there are the weird things.. like 大きい and 大き な. Sigh..
Edit: I also wanted to throw in there are 5 reasons in total for using n desu - explanatory, redundancy, request, regret, and exclamation. Don't really want to run through them all, but I'm sure you can find explanations on them somewhere.
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RE: n-desu
You can tell which of the adj that end in i that aren't -i adj because they were orginally in kanji, like kawaii. I can't remember the kanji for it, but at least that's the only i ending non -i adjective I know of.
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RE: 'i' vs 'na' adjectives
I have read that 'i' adjectives end in 'ai', 'ii', 'ui', or 'oi', never 'ei'. So one can work out that a word like 'kirei' (beutiful) or 'yuumei' (famous) are 'na' adjectives. 'kirai' (hate), and 'tokui' (good at) are also 'na' adjectives.
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