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A Few IME Questions...

Postby Sorako » Sat 12.30.2006 12:27 am

I haven't quite gotten the hang of finding the Japanese punctuation, etc. on the IME setting yet, so, a couple of a questions.

How would one go about making the symbol that, in English, is "..."?

How is that star made? I noticed in a lot of informally written online...things, particularly by women, sometimes have the occasional little star in them, whether it hollow or not. I'm assuming that's text made?


(Sorry if this is in the wrong section. :( I wasn't sure where to put it.)
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby richvh » Sat 12.30.2006 12:34 am

You can make … with either ・・・ or 。。。 then hitting space until the correct symbol comes up. For ☆ and ★ (as well as some other symbols), type ほし then hit space until the right symbol comes up.
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby Sorako » Sat 12.30.2006 12:46 am

Hah, the star makes perfect sense now...

I tried the "..." thing by putting in ”。。。” and hitting space, but it didn't come up. Is there another way?
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby richvh » Sat 12.30.2006 1:16 pm

Don't hit space just once; hit it again and you'll get a list: 。。。, …, ..., >>>, >>> The other one I know does it is ・・・: in this case, the list is ・・・, …, ???, ???
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby Mike Cash » Sat 12.30.2006 9:47 pm

The quickest way (at least on my Japanese keyboard) is to reach out my pinky, switch back to English mode, type the ...... and then switch back to Japanese mode.
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby shin1ro » Sat 12.30.2006 11:41 pm

I personally don't like the 。。。 manner corresponding to the English "...". I think some people are too lazy to switch back and forth from Japanese mode to alphabet mode (as Mke san mentioned - probably Alt+'~'(tilde) is the switch) and leave the ugly 。。。 as the result... I strongly believe it's only found in immature (and mostly private) messages and you'll never find it in public and formal messages.

If you type きごう in IME, you'll find a bunch of special symbols including Russian Cyrillic characters and Greek characters (at least in my Win XP, Japanese version). :)

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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby richvh » Sat 12.30.2006 11:45 pm

Yes, but that's quite a list - some of those symbols are easier to get with other inputs.
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby Mike Cash » Sun 12.31.2006 12:04 am

shin1ro wrote:
I personally don't like the 。。。 manner corresponding to the English "...". I think some people are too lazy to switch back and forth from Japanese mode to alphabet mode (as Mke san mentioned - probably Alt+'~'(tilde) is the switch)


I use the 半角/全角 漢字 key located between the Tab key and the Escape key.
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby Chris Hart » Sun 12.31.2006 12:07 am

Mike Cash wrote:
shin1ro wrote:
I personally don't like the 。。。 manner corresponding to the English "...". I think some people are too lazy to switch back and forth from Japanese mode to alphabet mode (as Mke san mentioned - probably Alt+'~'(tilde) is the switch)


I use the 半角/全角 漢字 key located between the Tab key and the Escape key.


I take it it isn't mapped the same as the ~/` key on my US QWERTY keyboard.
-.. .   -.- -.-. ---.. ..- ..-. ...-

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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby shin1ro » Sun 12.31.2006 12:27 am

Chris Hart wrote:
Mike Cash wrote:
I use the 半角/全角 漢字 key located between the Tab key and the Escape key.

I take it it isn't mapped the same as the ~/` key on my US QWERTY keyboard.

Right. If you have Japanese 109 keyboard, 半角/全角 漢字 key is the switch. But I use an (American) 101 Keyboard :) - probably the same as those who don't live in Japan.

I chose 101 because the layout of special characters is equivalent to the Unix workstation at work... But finally my PC at work had to be a rental and I had no choice but only Japanese 109 keyboard layout...I have to look at the keyboard when typing special characters...dah! :@

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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby Zounoko » Sun 12.31.2006 12:52 am

When I want to type … in IME, I type in てん and that's the first thing that comes up.

However, I'm having a weird problem with the IME lately. It randomly starts typing characters other than what I typed. (So I will type いま but instead it will come up with にもち, which it just did.) If I go to another program and type something, then come back, it types the characters properly.

Very frustrating...

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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby Sorako » Sun 12.31.2006 12:57 am

Ah, good, the てん thing did it. :)



And my, that's kinda strange. =/
I can imagine that'd be frustrating.
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby Mike Cash » Sun 12.31.2006 1:27 am

Zounoko wrote:
When I want to type … in IME, I type in てん and that's the first thing that comes up.

However, I'm having a weird problem with the IME lately. It randomly starts typing characters other than what I typed. (So I will type いま but instead it will come up with にもち, which it just did.) If I go to another program and type something, then come back, it types the characters properly.

Very frustrating...

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With romaji input "ima" is three keystrokes....same as the number of characters in にもち.

If you had a Japanese keyboard, you could glance down and very quickly figure out what is happening. With a direct kana input:

i = に
m = も
a = ち

That's what is happening. As to why it is happening, you're on your own.
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby zengargoyle » Sun 12.31.2006 1:30 am

you windows people have it easy... there are a bazillion different input methods under linux, at least 4 or so different ones just for Japanese... i sometimes switch back and forth between them because they have different shortcuts for the 'weird' characters.

z. -> …
z, -> ‥
z/ -> ・
z- -> 〜 ~
z[ -> 『
z] -> 』
z(hjkl) -> ←↓↑→ (gotta love vi/nethack arrows... )
yuubinn -> 〒
niyoro -> 〜~
shime -> 〆
handakuten -> ゜
dakutenn -> ゛
chouon -> ー
kakko -> 【 ... (all the various open/close things)
dou -> 々, 〃
sankaku -> △ ... (and other triangles)
maru -> ◯ ... (and other circle things)
nijuumaru -> ◎
kome -> ※
kigou -> (a bazillion symbol things of all sorts)
onpu -> ♪
hoshi -> ★ ... (and other star things)
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RE: A Few IME Questions...

Postby paul_b » Sun 12.31.2006 4:06 am

Mike Cash wrote:
That's what is happening. As to why it is happening, you're on your own.

The "kana" button is probably involved.

"> On the far right hand of your language bar is a [CAPS] and a [KANA] button.
> Click the [KANA] button to turn it off. (If you're like me you won't actually
> be able to see either without moving the language bar out first)."
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