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the word for "important"

Postby sampaguita » Thu 05.21.2009 8:53 pm

When do you use

だいじ
たいせつ
じゅうよう

? I know they all mean "important" but apparently, there is no such thing as a じゅうような人 or a だいじなじゅぎょう so there must be some nuances here...but I'm not sure if I got it right that だいじ is for persons, じゅうよう is for inanimate things, and たいせつ can be used for "precious" persons or "important/serious" events.

Could you please help me understand this matter? Thank you in advance!!!
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Re: the word for "important"

Postby two_heads_talking » Fri 05.22.2009 8:13 am

give us more context and we can certainly help you out. perhaps some sample sentences in English to let us see what it is you are looking for.
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Re: the word for "important"

Postby sampaguita » Fri 05.22.2009 11:38 am

The context is my concern. :D When doyou use "daiji", "juuyou", and "taisetsu"? I don't have any particular Japanese sentence in mind.

However, some English sentences might help.

"You are important to me (as a friend)."

"This is an important file in your application."

"It is important that you deliver this letter."

"This ring is precious because my mother gave it to me."

"She's a valuable member of this team."

In English, "important" things are not necessarily "precious" or "valuable", and vice versa.

How about in Japanese? How ARE they different, "juuyou", "daiji", and "taisetsu"? Are there any other related words?

Thank you!
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Re: the word for "important"

Postby keatonatron » Sat 05.23.2009 1:50 am

sampaguita wrote:there is no such thing as a じゅうような人


Sure there is.

By the way, the difference in meaning is easy to see if you study the kanji for each word:

重要 (じゅうよう) uses the characters for "heavy" and "need".

じゅうよう is more like "essential," or more literally "needed heavily" . If that person wasn't here, we wouldn't be able to do what we are doing. For example, the host of a talk-show is a very じゅうような人; if they aren't there, the show can't happen!

大事 (だいじ) uses the characters for "big" and "thing".

だいじ is used to mean something stands out, or "is a big deal". It can often be used to show that something isn't a trivial matter.

大切 (たいせつ) uses the characters for "big" and "cut". It's hard to figure out what the kanji are supposed to mean (perhaps something that does a lot of work?), but it seems to be the most neutral of the three. It is most often used when talking about personal importance (e.g. "He is very important to me")
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Re: the word for "important"

Postby sampaguita » Sun 05.24.2009 10:36 am

Thanks keatonatron!

Hmmm...looking at the kanji does make it easier. For "taisetsu", maybe it means "a big part in the completion (of the project)"?
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Re: the word for "important"

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Sun 05.24.2009 11:07 am

Perhaps. Using kanji to figure out meanings of words is dangerous, though -- it works out OK in this case but you should always check kanji meaning guesses with dictionaries and actual usage. (That is, I think keatonatron was just saying that the kanji are a useful mnemonic in this case, not that you should routinely figure out synonyms by using kanji meanings.)
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Re: the word for "important"

Postby inuinu » Sun 05.24.2009 11:56 am

「大切」の場合、
「深く」漢字を辿っていくと、いちおう意味を成します。

http://gogen-allguide.com/ta/taisetsu.html
http://ww81.tiki.ne.jp/~nothing/kanji/q/q_003.html

簡単に言えば、
「かなり近い」という感じになりますね。


「親切」→http://gogen-allguide.com/si/shinsetsu.html
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Re: the word for "important"

Postby sampaguita » Wed 05.27.2009 8:08 pm

Arigatou!!!
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