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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Kakashiluvr » Sat 05.21.2005 1:33 am

I still am shaky on a lot of things japanese....
how much is your typical japanese textbook? all i have is a dictionary.
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Spaztick » Sat 05.21.2005 12:01 pm

You can get a good book that can teach you about 260 kanji, and it's easy! It was the first book I used, and it explains the origins of most kanji. It's called Read Japanese Today (Clay sells it in the store). I ordered the book because it's easier for me to hold something tangible to learn. Other than that everything is free on the internet:

This site is great to use, or check the weblinks (for grammar go to web links, beginner, and the first link there). I recommend learning Kanji after you know the kana and soem grammar.
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Kakashiluvr » Sat 05.21.2005 12:08 pm

YEah... I know most of the kana but not all of it.
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Loady152 » Sat 05.28.2005 7:45 am

Yeah, I started on the Hirigana first and I'm almost done with that. I use flash cards and I write what I know everyday. I live in Okinawa so, I always have something to read.
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Loady152 » Sat 05.28.2005 7:49 am

It really depends what you want. I got a kanji book thats got about 1000 of the most used kanji for like 20 bucks. Japanese programs like cd's with books and stuff range from 20-50 bucks. It just depends what you want really.
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Kakashiluvr » Mon 06.13.2005 1:33 am

yeah i know....
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RE: Learning with manga

Postby Danyoru » Mon 06.13.2005 12:56 pm

I agree with Clay's method of learning, does anyone know the "Kanji de manga" books? It's a series of pocket-size books teaching kana/kani by using manga style pictures and comic strips for each kana/kanji.
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby omblaythezvee » Tue 06.14.2005 10:59 am

what troubles me are the little details in kanji like which way a certain flick goes, for example for 'kaji' - fire (i cant write the character on computers..) i usually put the 2 lines at the side pointing in to the centre but they both point in the same... its annoying!!:@
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby starfightermercurius » Thu 06.16.2005 12:26 pm

thou subdued souls, I memorize 80 kanji a week
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Nexus Lord » Thu 06.16.2005 3:06 pm

how can you do that, whats your method:o
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby clay » Thu 06.16.2005 4:14 pm

After reading about it here, I bought Heisig's book (and then quickly added it to the store). I was very impressed with it. I am almost through with it, but here are a few thoughts for beginners.

I think beginners should still learn the first 100-200 (most used) kanji with their readings. (like with Read Japanese for Today or using the kanji resources on this site for learning JLPT 4 kyuu kanji) That will enable them to read simple Japanese. Heisig's method is setup to learn all 2000 kanji in one course - not to learn the simplest to least frequent.

Once one has some confidence in the language and can read some, take a few months to go through Heisig's book.

I suppose my goal was just to learn the first 1000 (most frequent) kanji while in Japan. After I acheived that, I kind of stopped studying kanji. I could fumble through newspapers and simple novels, but I could only guess overall meanings. I found it difficult to add kanji beyond the first 1000 because they aren't used as often. But making mnemonics based on the kanji parts (primitives) is an excellent way to remember even the rarest of kanji.
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RE: Kanji...

Postby Pianogirl123 » Thu 06.16.2005 9:14 pm

Kanji is one of the hard parts on learning japanese but I just thought it can actually make it easier because to learn the kanji you also have to learn their meanings so as you learn more kanji you also learn more vocabulary!
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Spaztick » Thu 06.16.2005 11:24 pm

Yea, I think it's awesome that you got that book in Clay. I think the mnemonics are useful, but they explain the origins of the kanji more than the other books. (I'm used to seeing the phrase in there "a useful mnemonic, but earlier versions show...." and it's driving me nuts). :) Overall a good book if one wishes to tackle the Kanji, although I feel like writing one and building on what he did.
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby Jvl » Fri 06.17.2005 5:17 pm

so if i get the common japanese kanji first, and then step over to the memnonic book, is that a good plan? Or just take the memnonic one?
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RE: Advice on learning Kanji.

Postby starfightermercurius » Fri 06.17.2005 6:11 pm

My method is simple. I simply write out 16 kanji in the morning. Then every hour and a half, write another 16, along with the previous 16, totaling 32 kanji for this second period. I keep going in this fashion, until i reach 80 kanji for the day. I then repeat this for four more days during the week. If there are a few difficult characters to remember or write, I make a note of those characters and do those on one day on the weekend. The idea behind it is not just memorizing alone. I audibly recite the On and Kun readings while writing, and on off periods of not writing, I try to use the newly aquired vocabulary in different sentence patterns (this I do in my head, or I'll sound forever maniacal,LOL)
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