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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby ss » Sun 08.26.2007 10:01 pm

子狸はりこうな子です、 3級の成績はきっと優秀ですよ。
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby coco » Mon 08.27.2007 1:35 am

みなさん優秀ですよ。 :)

Caroline さん
「Vといい」の用例をWWWJDIC example search から。

あなたの望みが実現するといいですね。 [T]
I hope your wish will come true.
何か悩みがあるのなら、彼を相談するといいですよ。 [T]
If you have some troubles, I recommend you confer with him.


「いいかもしれない」は「控えめな提案」ですが、よく使われる形です。私はよく使います。 ;)
It might be a good idea to 〜 (?)

「よさそう」に関しては Yudan-sanのこの説明がわかりやすいかもしれません。

そして、「てもうら」+「よさそうだ」の場合には 「〜てもらうのがよさそうだ。」になるのが一般的です。

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では次。_____の部分に適合する文字を入れ、文章を完成させてください。

1)大事な手紙がない。どこ____ おいた はずだ。

2)
田中: 屋上から だれか が 飛び下りそうです。
鈴木: そりゃ大変だ。_____________。

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katafeiさん お名前を間違えてしまってすみません。前のポストを修正しました。
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby ss » Mon 08.27.2007 8:21 am

Thanks Coco-san and Tanuki-san for the log.
I read the log, but there's one question I didn't get it.

ここさん、
今度の問題は難しかったです。 友達にこの問題を教えておらいました、私の友達が説明してくれました。
I don't quite understand this question, so I asked my friends. They said this type of question is like someone murmuring to oneself.

大事な手紙がない。どこにおいたんだろう.
for example:
While I was reading a important letter in my room, the phone rang. So, I walked out the room to answer the call. When I returned to my room, I couldn't find the letter. At that time, I said 「大事な手紙がない、どこにおいたのだろう?」 (("Eh....The letter is not here, where has it gone to?"))

大事な手紙がない << this one was.... very weird to me
How about this, "彼がいない”? << After I understood this, then that sentence made sense. :)
大事な手紙がない << this is not person.
いない → ない。
います、いない.

Hope I got it right.

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This is my attempt:

1)
大事な手紙がない。どこかにおいたはずだ。 (hmmm...where is the letter? It ought to be somewhere ..... / I'm sure I put it somewhere ....)

2)
田中: 屋上から だれか が 飛び下りそうです。
鈴木: そりゃ大変だ。映画の撮影ですか? <<

:D Coco-san, please don't smack me .... ;)
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby caroline » Mon 08.27.2007 4:43 pm

Coco-san, thank you very much for all the information. I read that with lots of pleasure (and of course, due attention).
I tried to goo といいかもしれない、and got 0 match; I guess my error was to start from といい and try to see what would go after. I used for that a recent acquisition (どんな時、どう使う : essential japanese expressions - with three cups on the cover) that gives (at 3 kyuu, so I guessed I could understand it- fatal error) といい as hope or recommendation "would be good if ~ "

As for this quizz, I'm slightly puzzled... 
1. どこかに seems right
2. でも、しばらく前から、そんなことはよく見られてなったぞうだ。
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby tanuki » Mon 08.27.2007 8:34 pm

SS wrote:
子狸はりこうな子です、 3級の成績はきっと優秀ですよ。


とんでもない。
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I don't quite understand what we're supposed to do with the sentences. Just put whatever is grammatical? I'll try...


1)大事な手紙がない。どこに置いたか母が覚えておいた はずだ。

2)
田中: 屋上から だれか が 飛び下りそうです。
鈴木: そりゃ大変だ。床が汚くなるよ
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby katafei » Wed 08.29.2007 6:43 am

I've just been going through the last log (and I didn't do too well :( ;) ) but I learnt a lot.
what exactly is meant with "listening lessons" and "3-4 dialogs" ?
(Edit: probably the above exercises?)

大事な手紙がない...
Wow, I've constantly been misreading this sentence as:
"it's not an important letter, but we probably should send it somewhere....."
:D
boy, I've got a long way to go.....
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby caroline » Thu 08.30.2007 4:52 pm

Not hijacking the thread, I hope :

Do you know if there is still the provision to be over 60% for every part of the test ?

The question arises from the fact that I took an old test today, and my score on listening was... under 60%. (I don't expect to be as lucky this year as last year :()

I can bear to have a global average score - as I definitely have little time to study this year, and holes like pits in my knowledge - , though my pride will suffer :D, but not to pass? I guess I could if I had to, but would rather not.

Obviously, the priorities we set during last session are most welcome.
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby tanuki » Thu 08.30.2007 10:08 pm

OMG Caroline, if you didn't do so well, how will I do? :o You're scaring me a little.

I don't have as much time to study this year as I did last year, either. I'm basically aiming for a "pass" score, but not passing? :o
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby caroline » Fri 08.31.2007 4:11 am

Don't panic, Tanuki-san!!! :)

The 60% for every part of the test my teacher told us about 2 years ago does not seem to be in force now : I went to look at the thread on the results last year, and there were a lot of "pass" with under 60/100 on listening. So I think lazyness prevented me to have the answer to my own question...
so, for my punishment, I have to give the result to the listening part :
- part I, the one you can rely heavily on pictures : 10/14
- part II, the one that really is listening : 5/13 (nervous laugh)

Take that out as eliminating factor, and the "pass" score (my aim as well) is well within reach : the test is actually less difficult than coco-san's training as the red-herrings are quite often far more obvious. Praise to her, she's a good master! :)
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby ss » Fri 08.31.2007 4:39 am

I am always worrying about listening part. There is a potential for zero for that section.
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby katafei » Fri 08.31.2007 4:59 am

Yesterday I spend over half an hour staring at 分かっている in a sentence before I realised it was the simple わかっている。
that really had me worried!
But just now I watched an episode of Oshin (japanese subs only) and I understood almost everything, so that really gave me a boost!
I'm not too worried about the listening part, I spend a lot of time listening to Japanese on my mp3 (stuff that goes with Japanese for BP, mostly, but also several stories) and the listening tests seem to have a much slower rate.
And now that I downsized to learning for JLPT3 instead of 2, I hope the bulk is more manageable???
Tanuki, I would have thought you'd breeze through this exam? You seem to have a pretty solid stack of basic knowledge.
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby ss » Fri 08.31.2007 5:12 am

But just now I watched an episode of Oshin (japanese subs only) and I understood almost everything, so that really gave me a boost!


errr.... but then watching TV programmes, you have the playing/acting on the screen even if you don't fully understand the spoken part ...., yes, no ???

On actual day, it's totally basing on your listening skills, and it plays only once.

I've always found the conversation's incredibly long, for me it's just hard to catch.
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby caroline » Fri 08.31.2007 7:49 am

I am always worrying about listening part. There is a potential for zero for that section.
Sob!

Let me disagree, SS : there are always the questions like :
sequence : eat/watch TV/ go to bed.... quite easy if you eliminate one after the other!
what's left : he/she eats this and this : and you have the plate : same process of elimination...
Add to those the ones you really understand (and you do, I know that)... and you should be OK.

I spend a lot of time listening to Japanese on my mp3 (stuff that goes with Japanese for BP, mostly, but also several stories) and the listening tests seem to have a much slower rate

Do that : it tunes your ear, no matter what. I did that last year, and got the best of it. Even though it sure will be different on december 2 ;)
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby katafei » Fri 08.31.2007 8:49 am

SS wrote:
On actual day, it's totally basing on your listening skills, and it plays only once.

No return button? Darn!

But You're absolutely right, of course! It's just that I prefer to pretend things are going to be easy as long as possible :D
And Caroline has got some good points!
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RE: Related curricula – 3kyuu study group

Postby Gundaetiapo » Fri 08.31.2007 10:29 am

If Clay and Yumi do more chapters of ゆきの物語 I'd use them. For now I'm working through 2004 JLPT 聞き取り and have 2006 incoming from the japan shop.
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