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Who all, where all, what all

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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby SirFirestorm » Wed 08.01.2007 8:30 pm

I havnt heard that before in New york, it sounds very strange coming off the tongue.

what all you on abouts?
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby clay » Wed 08.01.2007 10:13 pm

How is this:

Sprecst þu Englisc? Ic leorne Englisc!
Speakest thou English? I'm learning English!

Beowulf! Forþæm þe Chaucer bið to eaðe!
Beowulf! Seeing that Chaucer is too easy.

Eala! Ðu eart Effingham! Ic eom Iosue - ic gefultumode þe for þinum T-scyrte!
Alas! You are Effingham! I am Iosue - I helped you ?for? thy T-shirt!

"Chaucer is too easy" - :o
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby AJBryant » Thu 08.02.2007 12:11 am

Shirasagi wrote:
Eala! Ðu eart Effingham! Ic eom Iosue - ic gefultumode þe for þinum T-scyrte!

Damn. We're on about three different forums together. I don't suppose you hang out at BaseballThinkFactory.org or SumoForum.net, do you?


Wow! Eala!!

Man it *is* a small world! Not the BaseballThinkFactory, but I'm going to have to check out SumoForum. (The game hasn't been the same since Chiyonofuji retired.)

When I lived in Tokyo, I thought I was the only English antiquarian -- I even found a bookstore that had all sorts of specialty titles like "La3amon's BRUT," "Edward III and Chivalry," "Encyclopeda Arthuriana."

By the way PM me with your address and shirt size. :)

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"Chaucer is too easy" -


Well, he is. :)

Ever seen "Geoffrey Chaucer Hath a Blog" ?
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby AkiKaza-chan » Thu 08.02.2007 1:45 am

i grew up in goergia (my grandparents in alabama) and we (being me and my family) use it all the time...i'm surprised you mentioned it my aunts and mom say it all the time too
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby clay » Thu 08.02.2007 11:47 am



Great site! I love this review on the game, Civilization:
CIVILISATIOUN: Yn this ful lernede game, ye playe the ful course of civilisacioun on the globe of the erthe. Erst, ye do governe the civilisacioun of the Golden Age, and gathir acornes and the croppes that the erthe ytself doth yive forth withouten labour. Lowys sayeth that this part of the game ‘sucketh’ for ther ys no werre or fightinge...
...At the ende of the game, ye do muche penaunce for the sinnes of the werlde and thanne ther ys sum musique.


I will enjoy reading that blog - thanks!
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby Tspoonami » Thu 08.02.2007 11:56 am

Indians tend to use 'all' in that manner. I wonder where that comes from...
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby clay » Thu 08.02.2007 12:15 pm

It seems to be in the definition list for several online dictionaries under 'all':
http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/all :

8 : being more than one person or thing <who all is coming>

So the usage must be widespread. I haven't found its history though. I can't think where all to look!
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby richvh » Thu 08.02.2007 12:22 pm

The OED would be the most likely place.
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby clay » Thu 08.02.2007 3:58 pm

I asked Yumi if I could buy the OED once. She said sure if you have space on your bookshelf. After telling her I would have to buy a few new bookshelves to hold it, she said no.
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby richvh » Thu 08.02.2007 4:08 pm

Aren't you exaggerating a bit? It's only 20 volumes (+ 3 volumes of additions.) Surely it would fit on one (or at most two) shelves on a normal-width bookcase?
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby Infidel » Thu 08.02.2007 6:15 pm

assuming there are no other books already on the shelves....
なるほど。
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby chikara » Thu 08.02.2007 7:54 pm

clay wrote:
It seems to be in the definition list for several online dictionaries under 'all':
http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/all :

8 : being more than one person or thing <who all is coming>

So the usage must be widespread. I haven't found its history though. I can't think where all to look!

So that usage is "officially" part of American English. :o
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Thu 08.02.2007 11:00 pm

Depends on what you mean by "official". Dictionaries are the ultimate in descriptive rather than prescriptive, so you find a lot of things that aren't standard English in there.

I looked up "hain't" and "irregardless" and both were marked as nonstandard, so I guess there is some kind of marking the dictionaries give. But it seems to be undeniable that "who all is coming" is a widespread feature of spoken American English.

Perhaps you will be just as horrified by "Do you want to come with?" instead of "Do you want to come with us?"
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby tanuki » Thu 08.02.2007 11:06 pm

That sounds like German. :o Kommst du mit?

By the way, I don't recall ever hearing this usage of "all". Maybe I haven't been paying proper attention.
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RE: Who all, where all, what all

Postby richvh » Fri 08.03.2007 6:54 am

Perhaps you will be just as horrified by "Do you want to come with?" instead of "Do you want to come with us?"


That one's very regional, predominantly Midwestern, I think; most Americans (myself included) would find it odd, I believe.
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