ゞ、ゝ、ヾ、ヽ くりかえし Hiragana and Katakan

Have a Question about some Grammar point? Share it with the world!
Post Reply
ryuubu
Posts: 140
Joined: Fri 09.09.2005 4:12 am
Contact:

ゞ、ゝ、ヾ、ヽ くりかえし Hiragana and Katakan

Post by ryuubu » Sat 10.01.2005 10:21 pm

I understand the usage of 々 for use with Kanji, but ゞ、ゝ、ヾ、ヽ are said to be used with Hiragan and Katakana respectively. I've never seen this before, what are some examples? And when should they be used?

Thnks ^____^

User avatar
mandolin
Posts: 497
Joined: Mon 06.20.2005 3:44 am
Contact:

RE: ゞ、ゝ、ヾ、ヽ くりかえし Hiragana and Kat

Post by mandolin » Sat 10.01.2005 11:53 pm

I found this paragraph that should help....
Finally, there are special symbols for repeated kanji and kana, of which in modern Japanese only the kanji repeater 々 (called a kurikaeshi, くりかえし (繰り返し), meaning "repeat") is frequently used. The repeaters for hiragana are ゝ and ゞ, and the repeaters for katakana are ヽ and ヾ for unvoiced and voiced respectively, but due to the kana being relatively simple to write in contrast to many-stroke kanji, it is typically bad practice to use repeater symbols instead of repeating the kana.
I guess that pretty much means you will rarely if ever see the "ditto" character for kana. *shrug*

ryuubu
Posts: 140
Joined: Fri 09.09.2005 4:12 am
Contact:

RE: ゞ、ゝ、ヾ、ヽ くりかえし Hiragana and Kat

Post by ryuubu » Mon 10.03.2005 9:32 pm

I see, so it's for lazy people lol.

ryuubu
Posts: 140
Joined: Fri 09.09.2005 4:12 am
Contact:

RE: ゞ、ゝ、ヾ、ヽ くりかえし Hiragana and Kat

Post by ryuubu » Tue 10.04.2005 8:18 am

DOUBLE POST::

What does it mean by voiced/not voiced?

User avatar
Kates
Posts: 472
Joined: Fri 08.12.2005 3:54 pm
Contact:

RE: ゞ、ゝ、ヾ、ヽ くりかえし Hiragana and Kat

Post by Kates » Tue 10.04.2005 9:02 am

The voiced (or 'muddied') sounds are all of the kana that have daku-ten (") or handaku-ten (or maru) (゜) attached to them.

Unvoiced consonants: k, s, t, and h
Voiced consonants: g, z/j, d/j, b and p

Look at the HA-gyou for example:
When you say HA, HI, HU, HE and HO, (は ひ ふ へ ほ) your vocal cords are not used too much--it's mostly air and your mouth shape that create the sound.

However, when you say BA, BI, BU, BE and BO (ば び ぶ べ ぼ), they sound more 'voiced' than their 'original' sounds. The sound BA is created very similarly to the HA sound, so the Japanese just add daku-ten (") to it to change the sound of HA to BA.

I'm no linguistics major, but this is what I have learned and been taught... anyone with better info--or correct info ^^;--feel free to add it.

ryuubu
Posts: 140
Joined: Fri 09.09.2005 4:12 am
Contact:

RE: ゞ、ゝ、ヾ、ヽ くりかえし Hiragana and Kat

Post by ryuubu » Tue 10.04.2005 3:42 pm

ほう〜〜〜〜。

はい!分かった!

Post Reply