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Is this correct?

Postby NeoUmbra » Sat 02.02.2008 12:25 am

I am just starting to learn japanese and i wanted to see if i was taking in what i was learning correctly.

Does this little paragraph make any sence?

私はボーです。
オーストラリア人です。
二人かぞくです。 父と母がいます。
私もいぬいます。
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RE: Is this correct?

Postby richvh » Sat 02.02.2008 12:36 am

Most of it is OK. There's a couple of places you slipped up.
二人かぞくです。

The order is wrong, and you need to include yourself in the count.
かぞくは三人です。
私もいぬいます。

That も comes out of nowhere. Who's the other person you've mentioned that has a dog (the only context in which that sentence would make sense... assuming the null particle can be used between いぬ and います)?
私はいぬがいます。
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RE: Is this correct?

Postby saraLynne » Sat 02.02.2008 12:41 am

I can see where he got the も from. "I also have a dog."

It's hard when you're starting out to realize that you can't use the particle that way, because it -appears- to make perfect sense.

@NeoUmbra: if you think of 私も as "me too", then you'll see why it doesn't fit. :)
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RE: Is this correct?

Postby NeoUmbra » Sat 02.02.2008 1:21 am

Ah ok, i was wondering if i used the も correctly or not, obviously not. ;)

@richvh

The order of the words was something i thought i was correct on :| . In the book i have, in the examples section, it states 5人かぞくです。 when 2 people were talking about family.

I cant believe i forgot to count myself :p , that one lame mistake :D

Ill just have to keep in mind when i am reading it that it is incorrect :D
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RE: Is this correct?

Postby richvh » Sat 02.02.2008 1:42 am

Okay, that's a sentence pattern I don't see that often, and when I do it's with something like たくさん rather than a specific number like 5人, so it's not so much wrong as unusual. Maybe someone with more experience can chime in and further shoot me down.
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RE: Is this correct?

Postby NeoUmbra » Sat 02.02.2008 1:46 am

Well maybe my book is wrong in that aspect. Hmm, maybe someone else knows the answer.
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RE: Is this correct?

Postby richvh » Sat 02.02.2008 1:55 am

Examples of proper も usage:
私は犬を飼っています。
友達も犬を飼っています。

私は犬を飼っています。
私は猫も飼っています。 (Wrong: 私も猫を飼っています。)

私は学校に行きます。
私は店で働くこともします。 (Wrong: 私も店で働きます。)

In all of the above, in English, you can just add a ", too" at the end of the sentence, but in Japanese, where the も is placed depends on context.
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RE: Is this correct?

Postby Oyaji » Sat 02.02.2008 2:00 am

I certainly don't want to shoot anyone down ;) , but yes, that pattern is very common in self introductions.

Here is a common way to include your dog:

3人かぞくです。父と母がいます。
いぬもいます。

(A more technical pattern is: いぬをかっています, but I believe the above pattern would be more common, especially in fairly informal situations.)

edit: I didn't see Rich's last post before posting this. Those are very useful examples.
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RE: Is this correct?

Postby NeoUmbra » Sat 02.02.2008 2:10 am

Ah cool.

I see how the も particle can be used now. That would state that there is also a dog in your family correct?
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