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Learning from the shoutbox

Postby Jetsi » Tue 06.17.2008 11:42 am

Allrighty, instead of fouling up the shoutbox, I figured I would work through this here.

Here is what I started with:

わたしわベルがじょぞするまして。

I realize my first mistake is that I am concentrating on listening and talking instead of writing at the moment, so it should have started off as わたしは. If that correction is made, is the rest correct for saying "I brewed beer." ?
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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby richvh » Tue 06.17.2008 12:04 pm

私はビールを醸造しました。
わたしはビールをじょうぞうしました。
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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby Jetsi » Tue 06.17.2008 3:31 pm

OK, so looking at that, I misspelled ビール and forgot the -, used が instead of を, plus I messed up on the stress of the お in じょうぞう by writing じょぞ.

However, my dictionary shows that to brew is じょうぞうする, so how did you get じょうぞうしまして? Shouldn't it, after a little research, be じょうぞうすまして?

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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby richvh » Tue 06.17.2008 3:39 pm

する is an irregular verb. The polite form is します, not すます or すります or するます. Also, the polite past form is しました (shimashita), not しまして (shimashite) - a form that exists, but is very rarely used.
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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby Jetsi » Tue 06.17.2008 5:53 pm

*bows deep to richvh*

Cursed irregular verb. I missed the subtle た instead of て at the end, guess I filled in the spot with what I hear most.

With する being "to do" can じょうぞう be used on its own? Or is the する a requirement of the verb "to brew".

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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby richvh » Tue 06.17.2008 6:33 pm

Without some form of する, じょうぞう is just a noun. As such, it can be used.
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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby chikara » Tue 06.17.2008 7:46 pm

Jetsi wrote:Allrighty, instead of fouling up the shoutbox, I figured I would work through this here.....

Wow!!! What a great idea. With any luck it may even catch on :D
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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby AJBryant » Tue 06.17.2008 8:42 pm

But actually, can one brew beer legally at home in Japan? I remember when I was there, the laws were quite draconian about that.


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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby chikara » Tue 06.17.2008 8:57 pm

richvh wrote:私はビールを醸造しました。

déjà vu :)
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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby Jetsi » Tue 06.17.2008 9:39 pm

*bows even deeper*

Thanks, that makes much more sense than anything else I have read. Plus, since I worked at it hopefully it will sink in a little deeper :D .

Chikara: :mrgreen: Yeah, I can take a hint, it just sometimes takes a few before I learn. See above :wink: . That brings up an interesting question: Will the search feature work in hiragana and katakana?

Tony: I have absolutely no idea, obviously. What a dreaded thought, though. No microbrew? Oh the humanity!
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Re: Learning from the shoutbox

Postby chikara » Tue 06.17.2008 9:45 pm

Jetsi wrote:..... Yeah, I can take a hint, it just sometimes takes a few before I learn. ....

It was actually meant as a compliment despite the sarcasm. :)

I wish more people would start a thread rather than try and hold discussions in the shout box.

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