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RE: Poodles as pets

Postby two_heads_talking » Tue 05.01.2007 12:21 pm

MIke, how is the Japanese media discussing this? I can only imagine they are getting a little bit of a chuckle from it..
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RE: Poodles as pets

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Tue 05.01.2007 5:12 pm

Mike Cash wrote:
Just shows how Western society/media are preconditioned with absurd ideas about how bizarre/exotic Japan is.


People are gullible in general, but it seems that whenever it comes to anything that portrays Japan as bizarre (and in particular, sexually deviant), it is immediately believed by people even if it completely contradicts logic. The Waiwai section of the Mainichi is particularly bad for vetting these myths.

The one that I'm tired of seeing over and over again is this idea that it's normal for Japanese moms to give their sons oral sex during exam study time to decrease their stress. This concept is so absurd that you would think nobody could possibly take it seriously, and yet it seems like every few months I see someone bring it up as an example of how "messed up" Japanese people are. It apparently originated from a Waiwai article that was taken at face value despite a complete lack of sourcing (and plausibility), but because it fit in with this idea of Japan being a bizarre place, it was accepted without question.
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RE: Poodles as pets

Postby lalaith » Tue 05.01.2007 5:22 pm

Yudan Taiteki wrote:
The one that I'm tired of seeing over and over again is this idea that it's normal for Japanese moms to give their sons oral sex during exam study time to decrease their stress.


Oh, ick. I'd never heard that before & I wish I hadn't heard it now.
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RE: Poodles as pets

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Tue 05.01.2007 5:55 pm

Although it is somewhat disgusting, it's the best example I know of something that should be so ridiculous and absurd as to not fool anyone, and yet *is* believed by people because it fits in with their preconceived notions about Japan.
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RE: Poodles as pets

Postby tanuki » Tue 05.01.2007 6:03 pm

:o

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RE: Poodles as pets

Postby doinkies » Wed 05.02.2007 1:30 am

I find it preposterous that there are actually doinks out there who think everything in WaiWai is real... :@ But since Mainichi never says that the WaiWai articles really come from tabloids, I suppose people think they are real news articles. -_-

Another thing WaiWai often does is post articles about some odd, weird or gross item or business and say that said item or business is "wildly popular" in Japan, but never actually give the numerical data to prove this claim. I suppose it's because if they did, then people would instantly see that their stories are nothing but exaggerations. ;)
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RE: Poodles as pets

Postby two_heads_talking » Wed 05.02.2007 9:40 am

Yudan Taiteki wrote:

The one that I'm tired of seeing over and over again is this idea that it's normal for Japanese moms to give their sons oral sex during exam study time to decrease their stress. This concept is so absurd that you would think nobody could possibly take it seriously, and yet it seems like every few months I see someone bring it up as an example of how "messed up" Japanese people are. It apparently originated from a Waiwai article that was taken at face value despite a complete lack of sourcing (and plausibility), but because it fit in with this idea of Japan being a bizarre place, it was accepted without question.


I had never heard that as Japanese, but I had heard it from nearly every other asian country.. mainly china, thailand and vietnam. I never much believed it, but figured it was one of the "urban legends" that just gets a face life depending on which race is used to fuel it..
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RE: Poodles as pets

Postby Mike Cash » Wed 05.02.2007 10:33 am

In case it isn't apparent....The Mainichi is a rag.
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Re: Poodles as pets

Postby sunzoltar » Mon 06.30.2008 6:34 pm

It would be easy to label Mainichi as a rag, but then you would be glossing over the headline without learning much from it. Actually, Mainichi is one of Japan's oldest and most respected newspapers, with a subscriber base of over 4 million. (This compares to 1.1 million for the New York Times). Actually, Mainichi is generally known for its particularly dull and bland reporting on the news; the same problem that plagues most Japanese newspapers today in their race to gain market share by never offending.

Articles in the WaiWai section cite the weekly magazines, which are a mixture of high, middle, and low-brow news reporting that fills the void left by the blasé newspaper organizations. Every one of Japan's major newspapers owns or partially owns a weekly magazine (Yomiuri, Asahi, Mainichi, Nihon Keizai, and Sankei). While Westerners may be accustomed to the New York Times writing hard-hitting editorial pieces, the Atlantic Monthly writing literary pieces, and the Enquirer writing sensational stories, Japanese weekly magazines routinely combine all three genres in the same publication.

While it is unfortunate that the uninitiated may seize on the occasional WaiWai article and form a misguided generalization about Japan, blaming Mainichi for translating a small snippet of a much larger media genre, and demanding that the articles be censured, is a greater travesty yet. Lovers of a free and open press should encourage a broader translation of weekly magazines, not lessor--for it is only through the open exchange of ideas, showing warts and all, that we can truly form deep and meaningful understandings of ourselves and the societies around us.
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Re: Poodles as pets

Postby AJBryant » Mon 06.30.2008 7:06 pm

Congratulations. A 13-month necropost.

I suggest strongly you lurk more before posting.


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Re: Poodles as pets

Postby chikara » Mon 06.30.2008 7:11 pm

AJBryant wrote:Congratulations. A 13-month necropost.....

やった!! :roll:

Maybe we should have a sticky thread somewhere which can only be updated by Admins which has a leader board of necroposts for all to see. There have been some real doosies over the past week.
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Re: RE: Poodles as pets

Postby TheIrishSin » Tue 09.02.2008 2:05 pm

tanuki wrote:Bah, I'd rather have a sheep anyway. I figure sheep are tastier than those posh poodles. :)




Kinda....scary...
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Re: RE: Poodles as pets

Postby chikara » Wed 09.03.2008 2:32 am

TheIrishSin wrote:Kinda....scary...

This thread has had more come backs than Lazarus :roll:
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Re: Poodles as pets

Postby doolittle » Tue 12.16.2008 5:43 pm

Are u serious they dont give oral? i been telling that story for years, lol
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Re: Poodles as pets

Postby furrykef » Tue 12.16.2008 6:29 pm

That's a rather inauspicious first post if I ever saw one.
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