nukemarine wrote:The methods listed by the early posters also work, but I think you're limited to 700 to 1000 kanji based on personal reports by others. With so few, you're essentially illiterate in Japanese (well, technically, you're reading at the 6th grade level). Not a show stopper and still an amazing accomplishment.
Damn. I'm going to have to go and forget 1000+ kanji to stay keep up with your personal reports.
I've never used Heisig, nor memory place.
Also, I'm pretty sure that 6th graders know around 1500 kanji, not 700 to 1000.
There`s no nothing to determine what sixth graders in Japan know about Kanji. It`s a hyper literate culture, so it`s likely they know not only the 1000 they are scholatically taught but additional kanji just by living in the area. To say 1500 is a big a SWAG as my 1000. You may as well try to gauge the average vocabulary of 6th graders. In all honesty, I just used the kanji grades as a guide to say 6th grade literacy. Considering 5 years old Japanese kids are more fluent (though less literate) than a majority on this board, take with that what you will.
Out of interest, what are you using to gauge how many kanji you know how to read and write?
With me, I may know how to write and recognize 2300 kanji, but lacking the ability to read 1700 of them in Japanese still makes me illiterate (well that, and not knowing 10,000 words either doesn`t help). So yeah, I`ve been going pretty slow over the last 10 months (my own fault for the most part). Still, I`m pretty sure I wouldn`t even be this far without Heisig, visual memory cues and SRS. The memory palace thing is a recent test on my part, but it seems to work nice.
Arbalest, knowing how to write those kanji is just a by product of knowing how to recognize them. You`re dead on about breaking down kanji into smaller parts being a big key, and something not unique to Heisig. Your other point that its the entire package (vocabulary, pronunciation, kanji, reading) that`s needed. Piecemeal only takes you so far. Another good call on just reading native material at a certain point (I also add in listening).
PS: I really hate typing on a qwerty keyboard, so forgive the typos.