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Postby EmilyBean » Wed 11.02.2005 9:51 pm

what's the point of small "tsu" in words? you can hardly hear it and I never know where it comes from, when to put it, etc...
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RE: small tsu

Postby AJBryant » Wed 11.02.2005 9:57 pm

It doubles the following consonant.

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RE: small tsu

Postby Kates » Wed 11.02.2005 11:51 pm

As Tony said, it doubles the following consonant. So words like "gakkou" (school) would look like がっこう. The っ 'sounds' like a stop, somewhat. Try saying the words "hot tea" and you might understand what I mean. When we say "hot tea" naturally, it sounds more like "hottea" doesn't it? That's what the っ does. ^_^
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RE: small tsu

Postby EmilyBean » Wed 11.02.2005 11:56 pm

alright, I think I understand it now...
like "katta" makes it katta not "kata" which sounds harder to me.
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RE: small tsu

Postby nprz » Thu 11.03.2005 3:56 am

Kates: You mean when you say "hot tea" it doesn't come out as "hottie". I want a hot tea in my hands right now.

And I think any Japanese can hear where there is a っ or not in a word. It is only people that are just starting to learn the language that can't.
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RE: small tsu

Postby Kates » Thu 11.03.2005 7:39 am

nprz: No, my 'hot tea' does not sound like 'hottie.' ^^; Does YOURS? haha

As you (just speaking to beginning Japanese students in general) get better and better at Japanese, (ESPECIALLY LISTENING! PRACTICE LISTENING.) you'll be able to tell the difference between words like "kite" (cut) "kiite" (listen) and "kitte" (come/approach). And you'll be able to hear the long 'o' sound better, and you'll be able to say "kon'yaku" and it won't sound like "kon'nyaku"....

But getting the small tsu down should be a first step. That is... after getting the pronunciation difference between "kowai" and "kawaii." :P
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RE: small tsu

Postby AJBryant » Thu 11.03.2005 8:57 am

The doubled consonant is easy to understand. It's the difference in the /D/, for example, in "madog" and "mad dog", the /K/ in "black cat" and "blanket", or the /T/ in "bit up" and "bit top."

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RE: small tsu

Postby Kates » Fri 11.04.2005 7:32 am

Ooh, arigatou~ More good English examples.
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