Well, I just talked to you about this on the chat server, and you told me to copy/paste that whole thing here... so that's what I'm going to do.SS wrote:If we decide to use "Skype", we probably need to PM the address to each other.Katafei wrote:
And shall we decide on 'skype' as well?
I wish to take this opportunity to ask Clay or Phreadom about the latest update on new TJP chat, as we might have read these threads:
The New TJP chat
(Possible to integrate with Rikaichan?)
Browser Based Chat
Hopefully that answers some questions for people? If not, just ask and I'll try to clarify further.SS and Phreadom wrote: SS: When will be the chat ready for use?
Phreadom: I'm working on it. You mean specifically the web interface, right?
Phreadom: The chat works right now.
Phreadom: I'm in The Lounge.
SS: but does it support Rikaichan?
SS: I thought the chat you were talking about was the flash chat
Phreadom: No. We need the web interface for Rikaichan.
SS: no installation
SS: that means, we are still using Pandion, with some new features added, right?
Phreadom: No... when I do the web interface, you'll be chatting right on the website. no Pandion. Pandion is just the particular program you use to connect to the chat server right now. Like I use Pidgin instead of Pandion.
SS: so is that "Flash Chat" ?
Phreadom: http://www.ejabberd.im/ <--- That is the actual chat server software.
Phreadom: Flash Chat was something totally different.
Phreadom: It's not there anymore.
SS: Remember my post in the thread? There was once a chat like thingie in main page, and when I clicked on it I was automatically logged in ....
SS: Was that the one you were talking about all along?
Phreadom: No. That was probably the old Flash Chat.
SS: You know I'm stupid.
Phreadom: This will be a web interface, a little like that... but it will connect to the chat server here.
Phreadom: the one you're connected to right now.
Phreadom: it will default to "The Lounge" on this chat server, where we're all chatting every day (and where I am right now even).
Phreadom: and because it's not Flash based, like the Flash Chat was, you will be able to use Rikaichan in Firefox.
SS: Sounds nice. Why don't you explain in one of those threads? It really saves me the hassle of having to create a Skype chat room for some people.
Phreadom: Well... did you want to just get in a room to have a discussion? you can do that on here already.
Phreadom: using Pandion or Pidgin or whatever. the benefit of creating the web interface will be that people won't need to install those programs. They can use get on through the TJP site using Firefox or whatever.
Phreadom: Make sense?
Phreadom: If none of them have Pandion or Pidgin or whatever... but they all have Skype, maybe that would be easier for now?
SS: Yes. But I think ever since TJP moved, there are many people who can't connect to Pandion, you get what I mean?
(Editors note: Again, Pandion is just the client software. You're connecting to a Jabber/XMPP server, and that software is actually "ejabberd". Pandion and Pidgin are just client programs you can install on your computer to connect to the chat server running here on this server. When we get the web interface setup here on TJP, you won't need Pandion, Pidgin or any other specific chat software. Just your web browser. You'll probably want to use Firefox if you want to take advantage of Rikaichan.)
Phreadom: because they're not paying attention to all the threads...
Phreadom: that say you have to REREGISTER.
Phreadom: They're just trying to sign on and can't because the server moved. If they read the instructions they'd see that they have to register again. They CANNOT just sign back on like before. Their old account is GONE.
(Editors note: Here are some of the actual threads for reference:
http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/vi ... 0&p=143758
http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/vi ... 3&p=128343
http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/vi ... 1&p=127371 )
Phreadom: (not yelling at you) :*
Phreadom: just stressing the point.
Phreadom: I've read it a number of times and I've even explained it to people a number of times. They complain in the very same thread where it's explained in detail... even on the very same page.
Phreadom: It gets frustrating.
Phreadom: So hopefully when I get the web chat stuff done we won't have these problems anymore.
Phreadom: I think in the meantime I'll put up a very clear tutorial for how to get on using Pandion or Pidgin.
SS: Jus, I would suggest to post this whole message (you wrote) to the thread
SS: If it made sense to me, it would make sense to many people.
Phreadom: Well, I wouldn't want to sound rude.
Phreadom: Do you understand now though?
SS: Yes. Exactly this kind of message should be repeated over and over again
Phreadom: Maybe I'll edit it to be a little more concise and polite.
SS: Then, add (I'm not yelling at you :-* )
Oops... almost forgot... " I'm not yelling at you :-* "