Japanese sentences in the Informal Present Tense

[Hyperworm]

lol

Yea I am, why? Yes I am interested in the language. I'm stilla beginner though, so I don't have any questions yet.

[furrykef]

So for your example:
日本語を勉強するのが好きだ。(にほんご　を　べんきょうする　の　が　すき　だ) I like to study Japanese.
Hope this helps.

How about just 日本語を勉強が好きだ -- dropping the するの part?

I dunno if the nuance is exactly the same or not, but in this case it seems to be unnecessary to use する to turn the noun into an verb, then の to turn it back into a noun. Or am I mistaken?

- Kef

[astaroth]

How about just 日本語を勉強が好きだ -- dropping the するの part?

I think in that case it would be 日本語の勉強が好きだ as 勉強 without する is a noun and not a verb.

I dunno if the nuance is exactly the same or not, but in this case it seems to be unnecessary to use する to turn the noun into an verb, then の to turn it back into a noun. Or am I mistaken?

Though as nuance goes, I think the difference is something along the lines of I like to study Japanese instead of I like the study of Japanese

(EDIT: I forgot to answer to the rest of the post ... sorry)

[Yudan Taiteki]

So for your example:
日本語を勉強するのが好きだ。(にほんご　を　べんきょうする　の　が　すき　だ) I like to study Japanese.
Hope this helps.

How about just 日本語を勉強が好きだ -- dropping the するの part?

I dunno if the nuance is exactly the same or not, but in this case it seems to be unnecessary to use する to turn the noun into an verb, then の to turn it back into a noun. Or am I mistaken?

The problem is that を has to connect a noun to a predicate (and in general, the predicate has to be a verb that the subject has control over). 勉強 by itself is not a predicate, it's just a noun. It only becomes a predicate when you attach the copula or する to it.

日本語の勉強 is fine because [noun + の + noun] is a valid grammatical construction.
日本語を勉強する is fine because [noun + を + predicate] is a valid grammatical construction.
日本語を勉強 is not OK because [noun + を + noun] is not valid.

(Actually, the sentence is technically grammatically OK if you allow for を好き to be correct as a recent innovation, but then it means "study likes Japanese", which was not your intention.)

[becki_kanou]

How about just 日本語を勉強が好きだ -- dropping the するの part?

I think in that case it would be 日本語の勉強が好きだ as 勉強 without する is a noun and not a verb.

I dunno if the nuance is exactly the same or not, but in this case it seems to be unnecessary to use する to turn the noun into an verb, then の to turn it back into a noun. Or am I mistaken?

Though as nuance goes, I think the difference is something along the lines of I like to study Japanese instead of I like the study of Japanese

(EDIT: I forgot to answer to the rest of the post ... sorry)

Absolutely correct. If you want to use 勉強 as noun then it must be の and not を.

edit: Yudan answered in much more detail, but since I've already typed this I'll post it anyway.

[furrykef]

Actually, I knew that, I just failed to pay attention when I edited the sentence. ^^; Thanks, though.