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Postby Mr.Paper » Tue 09.01.2009 9:36 pm

How can I learn this? Besides living in Japan.
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby furrykef » Tue 09.01.2009 9:52 pm

A lot of guides (such as Tae Kim's) cover some colloquialisms, but perhaps the best way to get acquainted with it would be to watch Japanese TV (anime would probably not be the best example unless you're careful to figure out what sorts of stuff people say in anime but not in real life).
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby Yudan Taiteki » Tue 09.01.2009 10:00 pm

It also depends on what exactly you mean by "colloquial". Most beginner classes and books cover "colloquial" Japanese in the sense that they cover the language that is used in everyday speech, but they tend not to cover very casual speech or slang; that's not really something you should learn first anyway. You have to understand the basic grammar and structure before you can handle extremely casual stuff.
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby mbridge » Tue 09.01.2009 10:07 pm

Japan Yahoo Chat. Seriously. Hang out in the middle school room for about a month and your head will be spinning wild.
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby furrykef » Tue 09.01.2009 10:10 pm

Ugh. I wouldn't consider text-speak, l33t-sp33k, etc. to be colloquial English; why would it be colloquial Japanese? :P

(OK, technicially it is colloquial speech, but when somebody says "I want to learn colloquial speech", they usually don't mean "d00d im sk8tn". :P)
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby keatonatron » Wed 09.02.2009 8:03 am

furrykef wrote:Ugh. I wouldn't consider text-speak, l33t-sp33k, etc. to be colloquial English; why would it be colloquial Japanese? :P


Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.

They simply write informally (and quite close to how they actually talk) when conversing on the internet.
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby NocturnalOcean » Wed 09.02.2009 8:08 am

keatonatron wrote:
furrykef wrote:Ugh. I wouldn't consider text-speak, l33t-sp33k, etc. to be colloquial English; why would it be colloquial Japanese? :P


Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.

They simply write informally (and quite close to how they actually talk) when conversing on the internet.


I wouldn't say that. My experience is that they write fairly different when being on chats. But then again it all depends what kind of chat and who they are talking with.
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby NileCat » Wed 09.02.2009 9:40 am

keatonatron wrote:Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.


「⊇σ,ζ,"З<"ち∋ーぉм○UЗ<Йё~」

「このぶろぐちょーおもしろくね?」 :lol:
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby becki_kanou » Wed 09.02.2009 11:13 am

NileCat wrote:
keatonatron wrote:Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.


「⊇σ,ζ,"З<"ち∋ーぉм○UЗ<Йё~」

「このぶろぐちょーおもしろくね?」 :lol:


I've always thought it must take a really long time to type in ギャル文字. I have no idea how to type half of that...
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby phreadom » Wed 09.02.2009 12:07 pm

NileCat wrote:
keatonatron wrote:Because Japanese people don't use text-speak.


「⊇σ,ζ,"З<"ち∋ーぉм○UЗ<Йё~」

「このぶろぐちょーおもしろくね?」 :lol:


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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby Hyperworm » Wed 09.02.2009 12:37 pm

*has a try at typing that*

⊇σ,ζ,"3<"ち∋ーぉм○U3<Йë~
しゅうごう しぐま , ぜーた , " 3 < " しゅうごう - ぉ ろしあ まる U 3 < ろしあ E ~

That took a little while :P
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Maybe there are custom IME dictionaries that will convert ね into Йë and lots of other corruptions for you, so you don't have to do what I just did? .-.
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby Harisenbon » Thu 09.03.2009 12:24 am

NileCat wrote:「⊇σ,ζ,"З<"ち∋ーぉм○UЗ<Йё~」
「このぶろぐちょーおもしろくね?」 :lol:


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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby mbridge » Thu 09.03.2009 10:30 am

There's voice chatting in there too.

Honestly nobody uses codes like that.
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby two_heads_talking » Thu 09.03.2009 1:45 pm

mbridge wrote:There's voice chatting in there too.

Honestly nobody uses codes like that.


Considering NileCat is Japanese and just typed that, I'd have to disagree with your assessment.
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Re: colloquial Japanese

Postby furrykef » Thu 09.03.2009 1:51 pm

I think mbridge meant nobody does it in Yahoo chat rooms.
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