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Bubuzuke
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Bubuzuke
So I was in the bookstore leafing through a Japanese cookbook today, noticing a few dishes that might be worth the effort of making, when I noticed green tea rice with salmon. Now the salmon looked delicious but I couldn't help looking at that and thinking, isn't that just bubuzuke with salmon?
Now, pretty much all of my exposure to the term is watching or reading about someone being served bubuzuke in a restaurant. To which some native Japanese often someone says, gross. So my impression was that it is not considered a tasty dish at all since the only person that ever says "oishii" or the like is someone that will eat anything. But, bubuzuke was described as a tasty light snack and a good way to use leftovers. So is this really a traditional snack? Because the 'gross' comments had me thinking quite the opposite.
Now, pretty much all of my exposure to the term is watching or reading about someone being served bubuzuke in a restaurant. To which some native Japanese often someone says, gross. So my impression was that it is not considered a tasty dish at all since the only person that ever says "oishii" or the like is someone that will eat anything. But, bubuzuke was described as a tasty light snack and a good way to use leftovers. So is this really a traditional snack? Because the 'gross' comments had me thinking quite the opposite.
なるほど。
さっぱりわからん。
さっぱりわからん。
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Infidel - Posts: 3088
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Re: Bubuzuke
I had never heard it called bubuzuke, but apparently it's just the kyoto-ben for chazuke, which you do often find with salmon (although my favorite is ume).
I've never heard anyone describe chazuke as "gross" or show any amount of shock about being served it in a restaurant.
It's a fairly common dish, especially in Izakayas.
I've never heard anyone describe chazuke as "gross" or show any amount of shock about being served it in a restaurant.
It's a fairly common dish, especially in Izakayas.
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Harisenbon - Posts: 2964
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Re: Bubuzuke
ahh, cool. Thanks. I was under the impression it was definitely not a normal dish. So that clears that up.
なるほど。
さっぱりわからん。
さっぱりわからん。
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Infidel - Posts: 3088
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Re: Bubuzuke
I think ochazuke is gross, but maybe you meant Japanese people. 
I only know bubuzuke from that Kyoto phrase ぶぶづけでもいかがですか? which basically means "time for you to leave".
I only know bubuzuke from that Kyoto phrase ぶぶづけでもいかがですか? which basically means "time for you to leave".
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Yudan Taiteki - Posts: 5609
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Re: Bubuzuke
Ochazuke is delicious! I don't know what you people are talking about...
Ah, those Kyoto girls and their hidden-meaning niceties...
Ah, those Kyoto girls and their hidden-meaning niceties...
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Re: Bubuzuke
when I noticed green tea rice with salmon.
ここにあるのが green tea rice だとすれば、それは「茶飯」だと思うので、「Green tea rice + 鮭」と「鮭茶漬け」は違います。
ご飯を炊くときにお茶(の葉)を入れる--茶飯
炊いたご飯にお茶をかける--お茶漬け
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Re: Bubuzuke
.... 1/4 teaspoon kosher salt ....
Is kosher salt important to get an authentic Japanese taste?
I only have Maldon Sea Salt in the pantry. Would that alter the flavour?
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Re: Bubuzuke
chikara wrote:.... 1/4 teaspoon kosher salt ....
Is kosher salt important to get an authentic Japanese taste?
Would that alter the flavour?
I don't think it is common to use kosher salt for meals in Japan.
Any "coarse salt" would be fine and easier to find.
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Re: Bubuzuke
coco wrote:I don't think it is common to use kosher salt for meals in Japan.
Any "coarse salt" would be fine and easier to find.
Course Salt is Kosher Salt.
It's called Kosher because it's used in the process of making meats kosher, not because it is in of itself kosher.
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Re: Bubuzuke
針さん、どうもありがとうございます。
勉強になりました。
勉強になりました。
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Re: Bubuzuke
coco wrote:when I noticed green tea rice with salmon.
ここにあるのが green tea rice だとすれば、それは「茶飯」だと思うので、「Green tea rice + 鮭」と「鮭茶漬け」は違います。
ご飯を炊くときにお茶(の葉)を入れる--茶飯
炊いたご飯にお茶をかける--お茶漬け
Nope, it wasn't like that. It was rice, immersed in green tea. in a bowl with cooked salmon on top. It looked good. Well, so does your picture.
なるほど。
さっぱりわからん。
さっぱりわからん。
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Infidel - Posts: 3088
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Re: Bubuzuke
Harisenbon wrote:Course Salt is Kosher Salt.
It's called Kosher because it's used in the process of making meats kosher, not because it is in of itself kosher.
Thanks. I wondered what they must put in salt in the USA to make it un-kosher.
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Re: Bubuzuke
chikara wrote:Thanks. I wondered what they must put in salt in the USA to make it un-kosher.
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Re: Bubuzuke
I’m a vegan rice isn't an animal by product is it?.
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Re: Bubuzuke
Harisenbon wrote:coco wrote:I don't think it is common to use kosher salt for meals in Japan.
Any "coarse salt" would be fine and easier to find.
Course Salt is Kosher Salt.
It's called Kosher because it's used in the process of making meats kosher, not because it is in of itself kosher.
The term kosher salt is restricted to North America; in the UK it is usually called "koshering salt", and in other parts of the world, "(coarse) cooking salt". In North America, the term koshering salt has been proposed as more accurate and is sometimes used in industry (e.g., The Salt Institute), but it is rarely used in everyday language.
and yep, because the salt grains are larger, they do a better job of drawing moisture/blood from the meats.
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