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Kanji for "mosshoseki" (leave no trace)

Postby bakouki » Tue 01.12.2010 5:19 pm

G'day all!
I'm having a hard time finding the right Kanji combination for "mosshoseki" a zen term for "leave no trace", when an enlightened person lives completely naturally leaving no trace with no visible signs of the aforementioned enlightenment.
So far, I've got:
没 or 無 followed by 跡 or 迹. I have no idea if any other Kanji and/or Hiragana are required.
Many thanks for any help and/or info you might provide!
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Re: Kanji for "mosshoseki" (leave no trace)

Postby chikara » Tue 01.12.2010 7:38 pm

Don't complain to me that people kick you when you're down. It's your own fault for lying there
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Re: Kanji for "mosshoseki" (leave no trace)

Postby AJBryant » Tue 01.12.2010 7:42 pm

It's not mosshoseki. It's mosshouseki/mosshôseki (没蹤跡).

Edit: Curses, beaten!
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Re: Kanji for "mosshoseki" (leave no trace)

Postby bakouki » Wed 01.13.2010 7:31 am

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Re: Kanji for "mosshoseki" (leave no trace)

Postby tōkai devotee » Wed 01.13.2010 7:37 pm

AJBryant wrote:It's not mosshoseki. It's mosshouseki/mosshôseki (没蹤跡).

Edit: Curses, beaten!


You may have been beaten to it , Tony, but I'm confused that the middle kanji in your response is different to that of Chikara-san's. Your's 没蹤跡 and Chikara's 没縦跡 Do they both mean the same thing?? A quick check at WWWJDIC fails to find either combination Kanji.
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Re: Kanji for "mosshoseki" (leave no trace)

Postby AJBryant » Fri 01.15.2010 8:30 pm

I haven't the foggiest idea. I don't know from Zen.

When that happens, I run a Google check, just to see what people use and what turns up.

Google search with : 没蹤跡, 禅, and は (to keep it in Japanese web pages)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&num=50&newwindow=1&q=”+没蹤跡”%E3%80%80禅%E3%80%80は&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

vs.

Google search with : 没縦跡, 禅, and は (to keep it in Japanese web pages)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&num=50&newwindow=1&q=”+没縦跡”%E3%80%80禅%E3%80%80は&aq=f&oq=&aqi=



5940 hits for 没蹤跡 vs. 7 hits for 没縦跡

Switching 座禅 for 禅 cuts it down to 9 hits v. 1 hit.

Essentially, I gather they're interchangeable (cf. English "Theater vs. Theatre"). The word doesn't show up in my Daijirin.
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Re: Kanji for "mosshoseki" (leave no trace)

Postby phreadom » Fri 01.15.2010 8:47 pm

Tried to fix those links for you Tony... you might want to peek and make sure they're still correct.

Basically actual kana/kanji in URLs directly breaks them here in phpbb. So you have to do something like
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[url=valid url encoded url]url with kana/kanji in it[/url]

It's a pain, but not much else I can do about it for now.
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Re: Kanji for "mosshoseki" (leave no trace)

Postby AJBryant » Sat 01.16.2010 1:37 am

Oh, thanks. Didn't think of that. :doh:
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