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~や~ as "and"

Postby Decae00 » Mon 03.08.2010 11:33 pm

Okay in my textbook, it said (sort of) that や is "and", with a couple examples. It didn't really go into it very much, just a dictionary definition at the back of the book and it was underlined in some sentences but that was it. I always thought that "and" was と so what is the difference in や? Thanks in advance ^.^
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Re: ~や~ as "and"

Postby chikara » Tue 03.09.2010 12:16 am

Decae00 wrote:...... I always thought that "and" was と so what is the difference in や? ....

Both mean "and" but と is used when the list of items is exhaustive and や is used when the list of items is not exhaustive, ie the list is only a sample and there are other items not specifically mentioned. Think of や as implying "etc" at the end of the list.

Tae Kim calls this "inclusive" and a "vague" listing in his grammar guide.
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Re: ~や~ as "and"

Postby Decae00 » Wed 03.10.2010 9:17 am

Okay, thank you for clearing that up. :D
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