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Using ga hoshii

Postby Greenmagic » Sat 11.20.2010 11:50 am

Hello everyone

I've just read this page on ga hoshii http://thejapanesepage.com/grammar/chap ... ant_hoshii and is attempting to practice on it.

If I were to say '' Do you want to see a magic tick?''
Majikku no tejina o miru ga hoshii desu ka?
Will this be correct? Should it be tejina o or tejina ga?

Also, '' when is your free time?'' (practising usage of itsu)
anata wa jiyuu jikan o itsu desu ka?
Is this correct?

Thanks a lot :D
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Re: Using ga hoshii

Postby furrykef » Sat 11.20.2010 12:25 pm

If I were to say '' Do you want to see a magic tick?''
Majikku no tejina o miru ga hoshii desu ka?

You don't use "hoshii" here. You can use "hoshii" with verbs to say "I want him/her/you to X", in which case you use the te-form: hashitte hoshii desu "I want you to run".

But if you want to say "I want to run", you use the -tai form of the verb: Hashiritai desu, "I want to run". To ask if somebody else wants to do it, add ka: Hashiritai desu ka? "Do you want to run?" But if you're not asking a question, and you want to describe what somebody else wants, it gets more tricky. You can't just say "He wants to run" because, unlike in English, this would imply that you're reading his inner thoughts. You must say "He looks like he wants to run", or "He seems to want to run", or "He says he wants to run", etc. The simplest way to do it is to use "deshou" or add "to omoimasu" (e.g. "Hashiritai to omoimasu"), but there are other ways.

Should it be tejina o or tejina ga?

You would say "tejina o miru". Very few verbs take an object with "ga" unless they're conjugated in the -tai or potential form.

Also, '' when is your free time?'' (practising usage of itsu)
anata wa jiyuu jikan o itsu desu ka?
Is this correct?

I think "wa" would be the right choice here. It couldn't be "o" because "desu" never takes a direct object.

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Re: Using ga hoshii

Postby Dustin » Mon 11.22.2010 7:21 am

Greenmagic wrote:Hello everyone
I've just read this page on ga hoshii http://thejapanesepage.com/grammar/chap ... ant_hoshii and is attempting to practice on it.

If I were to say '' Do you want to see a magic tick?''
Majikku no tejina o miru ga hoshii desu ka?
Will this be correct? Should it be tejina o or tejina ga?
Thanks a lot :D


Just to clarify, the usage of "ga hoshii" in this lesson can only be used as wanting an item rather than wanting to do something. The usage of hoshii with the -te form verbs is a different usage of the same verb.

I want cake, I want food, as examples on this page, or I want a car, I want a stereo, are examples that would all use ga hoshii

Now the NEXT lesson http://thejapanesepage.com/grammar/chap ... _to_do_tai covers wanting to do something :D

Furrykef already touched on that, but I just wanted to throw the link there so that you could see it there as the next lesson as well :D

Hope that helps :D
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Re: Using ga hoshii

Postby chikara » Mon 11.22.2010 9:00 am

The section on Desire and Suggestions in Tae Kim's Grammar Guide may also be of help. :)

Greenmagic wrote:....... '' when is your free time?'' (practising usage of itsu)
anata wa jiyuu jikan o itsu desu ka?
Is this correct? .....

itsu is not a verb so it can't take wo as a particle.

How about;

anata no jiyuu jikan wa itsu desu ka. :think:
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Re: Using ga hoshii

Postby Greenmagic » Mon 11.22.2010 11:59 am

Many thanks to all who have replied me; furrykef, Dustin and Chikara.
After reading the section on Taekim, I realised that the polite forms were not given. I suppose it is just adding desu isn't it?

-tai desu
-takunai desu
-takunakatta desu
-takatta desu.

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Re: Using ga hoshii

Postby furrykef » Mon 11.22.2010 4:46 pm

chikara wrote:itsu is not a verb so it can't take wo as a particle.

"Itsu" is not the problem. "Desu" is. I believe you could say, "Gohan o itsu tabemasu ka?"
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Re: Using ga hoshii

Postby chikara » Mon 11.22.2010 7:18 pm

Greenmagic wrote:.... After reading the section on Taekim, I realised that the polite forms were not given. I suppose it is just adding desu isn't it?

-tai desu
-takunai desu
-takunakatta desu
-takatta desu.
...

Yes, that is correct.

Tim Matheson explains it in Lesson 8 - Base 2 + tai.

furrykef wrote:
chikara wrote:itsu is not a verb so it can't take wo as a particle.

"Itsu" is not the problem. "Desu" is. I believe you could say, "Gohan o itsu tabemasu ka?"

You're correct, as long as it is followed by a verb and not a copula "[noun] o itsu" is fine. :blush:
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