And I just want to respond to this because I think this shows a misguided and snarky attempt at dismissing the helpful advice here to mind your proverbial p's and q's about putting a tiny bit of effort into one's writing.naranero wrote:does anyone like stephen fry? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY
As Fry himself pointed out, there are most certainly times at which using more "proper" English is in fact appropriate.
And coming into a language learning forum where one of the rules in fact is to take time to write properly, both to show respect for those teachers taking their valuable time to teach you for free, and for the other language learners who might not be native English speakers and who look to others here as, even indirectly, both examples of and teachers of the English language.Stephen Fry wrote:... most people accept the need to smarten up under some circumstances, it's only considerate. Context, convention, and circumstance are all.
From the forum rules thread:
Dropping a Stephen Fry video and thinking it absolves you of any responsibility to put more effort than a 5 year old into your writing on a language learning forum frankly steams my britches a little in its audacity.AJBryant wrote:When you write, please write with proper capitalization, punctuation, grammar, and syntax. In short, like a literate adult instead of a text-messaging chimpanzee.
Not everyone here is a native speaker of English, and it would help to make your posts as clear as possible. In addition, it shows a modicum of respect. If you don't respect us enough to take the time write like an educated adult, why should we take the time to respond to you?
I just felt the need to clarify that, since while I do in fact love Stephen Fry, and happen to agree with most of what's said in that video from a linguistic standpoint... your use of it here is improper to put it mildly.
I think I was more than polite about this issue at the start, even if Shiroisan wasn't. But to keep arguing with site admins about your right to type like a lazy kid on a language learning forum while expecting us to spend our valuable time trying to help teach you for free... that's a little rude I think.
So as a native English speaker, either take the time to write "I'm" instead of "im", especially when asked to do so by the admins on a language learning forum, or go find another website where people don't mind if you, as AJBryant put it, type like "a text-messaging chimpanzee".
Seriously... I didn't care at first... but your rude and obstinate attitude about being asked to type a little more "correctly" just smacks of disrespect for the people here who are taking their own time to try to help you.