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Postby nikhilkhullar » Thu 01.19.2012 5:08 am

はじめまして ...

I have put down a few sentences, basically I am testing myself for the usage of basic particles and verb conjugation in simple sentences. Please tell me the correctness...
In brackets, I have put what I wanted it to mean... :)

1. Sanaa san-wa eki-ni iki-maseN deshita.
(Sanaa did not go to the station.)

2. Watashi-wa Nida-o hanashi maseN.
(I do not talk to Nida.)

3. Albert-ga watashi-o shikari mashita.
(Albert scolded me.)

4. Kurisumasu-ne-wa watashi-ga Faiz-to oyogi mashita.
(Talking about Christmas, I swam with Faiz.)

5. How to translate: "I tried but nothing seemed to work for me"..? I wanted to write this, but couldn't...




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Nikhil
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Re: Please Correct

Postby NileCat » Thu 01.19.2012 1:35 pm

1. Sanaa san-wa eki-ni iki-maseN deshita.
(Sanaa did not go to the station.)
Correct!

2. Watashi-wa Nida-o hanashi maseN.
(I do not talk to Nida.)

The verb hanasu(はなす)(話す) can take five kinds of particles.

1. ~to hanasu (~と話す)
You talk to Nida / You talk with Nida (Nida to hanasu)

2. ~ni hanasu (~に話す)
You tell Nida (Nida ni hanasu)

3. ~ni-tsuite hanasu (~について話す)
You talk/tell/speak about Nida (Nida ni-tsuite hanasu)

4-a ~wo hanasu (~を話す)
You speak Japanese (Nihongo wo hanasu)
4-b ~wo hanasu (~を話す)
You tell the truth (shinjitsu wo hanasu)
You tell Nida the truth (Nida ni shinjitsu wo hanasu)

5. ~de hanasu (~で話す)
You talk/speak in Nihongo (Nihongo de hanasu)

Q1: You tell Nida about Sanaa
(A1: Sanaa ni-tsuite Nida ni hanasu)
Q2:You talk to/with Nida about Sanaa
(A2: Sanaa ni-tsuite Nida to habasu)
Q3: You don’t talk to/with Nida
(A3: Nida to hanasanai)
Q4: You don’t/won’t tell Nida
(A4: Nida ni hanasanai)


3. Albert-ga watashi-o shikari mashita.
(Albert scolded me.)
Correct.

4. Kurisumasu-ne-wa watashi-ga Faiz-to oyogi mashita.
(Talking about Christmas, I swam with Faiz.)

Kurisumasu ni wa
Watashi wa Faiz to oyogi mashita
(ga is not necessary wrong)

5. How to translate: "I tried but nothing seemed to work for me"..? I wanted to write this, but couldn't...

I have to say this is a very tough sentence. My suggestion is:
a) Try to divide it into two separate sentences. Rephrase it using the words you know.
b) Try to find a good verb for “try”.
c) Find a verb for “work”. What did you do and what did happen? (or what didn’t happen?)
d) Some idiomatic expression like “Yatte mitakedo umaku ikanakatta mitai” would sound fine. However, I’m afraid the grammar rules there are very tricky for you at the moment. Dissect and study the following sentences if you want:
“頑張ってみたのですが駄目だったみたいです”
“やってはみましたが私の思ったようにはいかなかったみたいです”
“試してみたのですが私の役にはたってくれなかったようです”
“試みましたが不首尾に終わったように思われます”
“やってみましたがうまくいかなかったんです”
“やってみたけど無理でした”
“試したけどまるでダメっぽかった”
“やったけどさ、うまくいかないんだよね”

Hope this helps.
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Re: Please Correct

Postby nikhilkhullar » Thu 01.19.2012 2:22 pm

@NileCat

Thanks a million...

Arigatou Gozaimastu... :)

Lots and lots to learn from that reply. Will note the facts in my diary, and try to internalise. You rock and so does TJP.

Warm Regards,
Nikhil
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