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Some odd WW2 facts

Postby Infidel » Mon 02.20.2006 7:51 am

This is a cut and paste. It actually does losely tie in to Japan. Some crazy facts here. Things that make you think. edit- I just found out these facts were culled from this book

Military History-Stranger than Fiction
This is from Col. D.G. Swinford, USMC, Ret. HISTORY BUFF

1. The first German serviceman killed in WW II was killed by
the
Japanese (China, 1937), the first American serviceman
killed was killed by the
Russians (Finland 1940), the highest ranking American
killed was Lt. Gen.
Lesley McNair, killed by the US Army Air Corps. . . So
much for allies.

2. The youngest US serviceman was 12 year old Calvin
Graham, USN. He
was wounded and given a Dishonorable Discharge for lying
about his age.
(His benefits were later restored by act of Congress)

3. At the time of Pearl Harbor the top US Navy command was
Called
CINCUS (pronounced "sink us"), the shoulder patch of the US
Army's 45th
Infantry division was the Swastika, and Hitler's private
train was named
"Amerika."
All three were soon changed for PR purposes.

4. More US servicemen died in the Air Corps than the Marine
Corps.
While completing the required 30 missions your chance of
being killed was
71%.

5. Generally speaking there was no such thing as an average
fighter
pilot. You were either an ace or a target. For instance Japanese
ace
Hiroyoshi Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes. He died
while a passenger on a
cargo plane.

6. It was a common practice on fighter planes to load
every 5th round
with a tracer round to aid in aiming. This was a mistake. Tracers
had
different ballistics so (at long range) if your tracers
were hitting the target
80% of your rounds were missing. Worse yet tracers
instantly told your enemy
he was under fire and from which direction. Worst of all
was the practice of
loading a string of tracers at the end of the belt to tell
you that you
were out of ammo. This was definitely not something you
wanted to tell
the enemy. Units that stopped using tracers saw their success
rate
nearly double and their loss rate go down.

7. When allied armies reached the Rhine the first thing men did
was
pee in it. This was pretty universal from the lowest
private to Winston
Churchill (who made a big show of it) and Gen. Patton (who
had himself
photographed in the act).

8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York
City but it
wasn't worth the effort.

9. German submarine U-120 was sunk by a malfunctioning toilet.

10. Among the first "Germans" captured at Normandy were
several
Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese
Army until they were
captured by the Russians and forced to fight for the
Russian Army until they
were captured by the Germans and forced to fight for the
German Army until
they were captured by the US Army.

AND I SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST....
11. Following a massive naval bombardment 35,000 US and
Canadian
troops stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands. 21
troops were
killed in the firefight.
It would have been even worse if there had been any Japanese on
the
island.
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby amego » Mon 02.20.2006 11:53 am

とても面白い! :p
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Postby sgtkwol » Mon 02.20.2006 12:30 pm

Very interesting, thanks for the info. People don't realize that the swastika has been around for a while, one of the greek gods sat on one as a throne or something like that.
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby Sachi » Mon 02.20.2006 1:03 pm

Nice post, Infidel :D

sgtkwol wrote:
People don't realize that the swastika has been around for a while, one of the greek gods sat on one as a throne or something like that.


:p I studied ancient Greece a little last year, but never heard that. Haha!
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Postby sgtkwol » Mon 02.20.2006 1:34 pm

Oops!! right idea, wrong thing. The Greek goddess Athena was sometimes portrayed as wearing robes covered with swastikas. Got that from http://www.crystalinks.com/swastika.html.
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby Taijiya aprentise » Mon 02.20.2006 4:01 pm

Infidel wrote:
This is a cut and paste. It actually does losely tie in to Japan. Some crazy facts AND I SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST....
11. Following a massive naval bombardment 35,000 US and
Canadian
troops stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands. 21
troops were
killed in the firefight.
It would have been even worse if there had been any Japanese on
the
island.

what can i say.....this is the dumbest thing that any commander can do.. .... attack some useless piece of land with evrything he's got and get some of his troops killed while he's at it only to find out that the enemy is not on the island:@!!!!
which brings me to this question: do you know whos the fool that whas resposiable for this? just curious.
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby hamsterfreak4evr » Mon 02.20.2006 5:05 pm

すごい!:)
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby hyperconjugated » Mon 02.20.2006 5:11 pm

Taijiya aprentise wrote:
what can i say.....this is the dumbest thing that any commander can do.. .... attack some useless piece of land with evrything he's got and get some of his troops killed while he's at it only to find out that the enemy is not on the island:@!!!!
which brings me to this question: do you know whos the fool that whas resposiable for this? just curious.


Not the first or last example of weak military intelligence
(in both senses of the meaning).
:D
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby ThrillRider » Mon 02.20.2006 5:50 pm

Infidel wrote:
3. At the time of Pearl Harbor the top US Navy command was
Called
CINCUS (pronounced "sink us"), the shoulder patch of the US
Army's 45th
Infantry division was the Swastika, and Hitler's private
train was named
"Amerika."
All three were soon changed for PR purposes.

Wow :D I never heard that before. But being from America I'm sure the government tried covering this up. Who would want to know that their government was practicaly asking for trouble.
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby kohana » Mon 02.20.2006 5:54 pm

sgtkwol wrote:
People don't realize that the swastika has been around for a while, one of the greek gods sat on one as a throne or something like that.

Mm-hmm, and it's a sacred symbol in Hinduism too. But that's going off topic. :D
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby Mariya » Mon 02.20.2006 5:55 pm

Has anyone heard of Unit 731? It isn't exactly related to WWII, but it was a side thing going on by the Japanese in China. Saw a documentary on it, brutal stuff that guy did. Can't remember his name, I think it was Shiro Ishi? Excuse if there's any wrong info!
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby coco » Mon 02.20.2006 6:26 pm

Mariya wrote:
Has anyone heard of Unit 731? It isn't exactly related to WWII, but it was a side thing going on by the Japanese in China. Saw a documentary on it, brutal stuff that guy did. Can't remember his name, I think it was Shiro Ishi? Excuse if there's any wrong info!

yes, 石井四郎(Shiro(u),ISHII 1892-1959)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby Infidel » Mon 02.20.2006 6:32 pm

No you're right. Unit 731. Shiro Ishii: Arguably worse than the German Mengle.

Although not a proper source, wiki does a decent condensed review what happened. More information is in the references at the bottom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Of course, lately the Japanese goverment is denying that ever happened. A very bad sign considering the old axiom, "If you don't know your history, you are doomed to repeat it."

which brings me to this question: do you know whos the fool that whas resposiable for this? just curious.


No, Everything below "this book" was cut and paste. The final comment "I saved the best" was not mine. The answer is probably in the book referenced.
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby coco » Mon 02.20.2006 6:55 pm

hehe, Infidel 山. I thought you hate "wikipedia".:D But it works as a entrance of knowledge, the important info are the References and external links of it, as you know.

addition.
Since "off topic Discussion" category is now under the trial,we have to be careful of our comments, specially this kind of topics. (personally,I like this thread, even though I could not figure out half of them ^^; 
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RE: Some odd WW2 facts

Postby Infidel » Mon 02.20.2006 7:26 pm

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